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LOTR FOMT : THE BATTLE OF PELENNOR FIELDS

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-The Battle Of Osgiliath,Citadel Of Stars.


The battle was a prelude to the Battle of the Pelennor Fields.

Prior to this, Sauron had regained all his military strength and was prepared to attack Middle-earth. He first planned to attack his most powerful enemy, the land of Gondor, where "the hammer will fall hardest". But in order to destroy Gondor's capital, Minas Tirith, he first needed to capture Osgiliath, a city strategically positioned on the river.

-The Battle Of Minas Tirith,The White City Of Gondor.

After the Battle of Osgiliath and the overrunning of the Rammas Echor, the last barriers against the forces of Mordor, the latter moved on the Pelennor Fields before the city on March 15, 3019 of the Third Age as the Great Darkness blotted out the sun.


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Progress
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-Ideas
•Some ideas are trnaslated from other LOTR maps to this new map
•Books Ideas (80%)
•Movie Ideas (10%)
•Games Ideas (5%)
•Other Sourcers (5%)

-Terrain
•Jungle ISOM And Rectangular Combination (totally finished and detailed)

-Unit placement
•Alt-7 for bullet

-Triggers
•They're too many for post them here.But at least,all of them has been finished whit some exceptions.All them works perfectly and whit details (98%)


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Specifications
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-Players
•12 Players (the rest are totally neutrals or for special effects and triggers)
-Player1



•Nazguls,Grond

-Heros

•Er-Murazor,Witch King Of Angmar
•The 8 Nazguls,Shadows Of Mordor
•Grond,Wolf's Head
•Use Palantir Stone Vision

-Unit

•(No Units)

-Special Units

•(No Units)

-Location

•N/A

-Skill/Abilitys

•N/A

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-Player2

•Nation Of Gondor (Neutral)

-Heros

•N/A

-Unit

•N/A

-Special Units

•N/A

-Location

•N/A

-Skill/Abilitys

•N/A

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-Player7

•Nation Of Gondor - Nation Of Rohan - Dúnedain of the North and Ithilien

-Heros (They're too many for post them here) Ill put some of them.

•Denethor Stewart Of Gondor
•Forlong Lord Of Lossarnach
•Gandalf The White
•Shadowfax Horse
•Peregrin Took (Pippin)
•Beregond Guard Of Minas Tirith
•Etc...

-Unit

•Gondor Archer (Shortbow)
•Gondor Archer (Crossbow)
•Gondor Archer (Longbow)
•Gondor War Car (Gondor Armored Troops)
•Gondor Rider (White Swan Of Dol Amroth)
•Gondor Knight (Battle Mallet)
•Gondor Field Medic (Battle Shield)
•Gondor Guard (Steelbow)
•Gondor Engineer (Dagger)
•Gondor Civilian (N/A)
•Etc...

-Special Units

•White Knight Of The Sun (Lance)
•Rohirrim Rider (Spear)
•Knight Of The White Tree (Sword)
•Gondor Trebuchet (Stones)
•Etc...

-Location

•East Osgiliath (100%)
•West Osgiliath (5%)
•Minas Tirith (100%)
•Harlond Ports (100%)
•Rammas Echor (100%)
•Pelennor Fields (100%)
•Anduin River (50%)
•Other Locations (90%)

-Skill/Abilitys

•Summon White Knigths Of The Sun
•Use Long Range Catapults (Tower)
•Use Warfare Catapults (Tactical)

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-Player4

•Mordor - Morgul - Harad - Rhûn - Khand - Umbar

-Heros (They're too many for post them here) Ill put some of them.

•Dark Spirit Of Morgul (Captain)
•Challum Oliphaunt Commander
•Hasharin Shadow Of The South

-Unit

•Mordor Orc (Shortbow)
•Mordor Orc (Sword)
•Mordor Orc (Warg/Wolf Rider)
•Uruk-Hai (Battle Hammer)
•Twisted Wild Man (Battle Torch)
•Black Uruk Of Mordor (Battle Pike)
•Mordor Troll (War Club)
•Mordor Olog-Hai Troll (War Armored Mace)
•Mordor Slave Of Nûrn (Snaga Orc)
•Etc...

-Special Units

•Siege Engine (Ballista)
•Mordor Catapult (Stones)
•Mordor Scream Catapult (Fallen Heads)
•Oliphaunt (Mumak)
•Battering Ram (Assault Ram)
•Etc...

-Location

•N/A

•West Osgiliath (90%)
•Morgul Road (99%)
•Anduin River (50%)
•Minas Morgul Southern Emcapment (100%)
•Other Locations (1%)

-Skill/Abilitys

•Summon Olog-Hai Armored Troll
•Use Siege Towers And Ladders (Tactica)
•Use Warfare Catapults (Tactical)


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-Player3

•Faramir's Rangers,Ithilien And Osgiliath Rangers

-Heros

•Faramir Son Of Denethor
•Madril Ranger Of Gondor
•Master Of The Guard (Captain)

-Unit

•Dúnedain Of Gondor
•Gondor Archer (Shortbow)
•Gondor Archer (Crossbow)
•Gondor Archer (Longbow)

-Special Units

•Dúnedain Of Gondor

-Location

•N/A

-Skill/Abilitys

•Summon Dúnedain Of Gondor
•Use Boling Oil (Tactical)
•Use Warfare Catapults (Tactical)


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-Player5

•Fellowship Of The Ring (Aragorn)

-Heros

•Edesan Ranger Of Ithilien (Begining)
•Aragorn Son Of Arathorn (Reinforcements)
•Legolas Prince Of Mirkwood (Reinforcements)
•Gimli Son Of Gloin (Reinforcements)
•Undead King (Reinforcements)

-Unit

•Dúnedain Of Gondor
•Gondor Archer (Shortbow)
•Gondor Archer (Crossbow)
•Gondor Archer (Longbow)

-Special Units

•Gondor Knight (Battle Mallet)

-Location

•N/A

-Skill/Abilitys

•Summon Gondor Knight (Battle Mallet)
•Use Boiling Oil (Tactical)
•Use Skill (Critical Hits)


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-Player6

•Morgul (Gothmog)

-Heros

•Urzahil Gothmog Of Umbar (Lt. Of Morgul)

-Unit

•N/A

-Special Units

•Morgul Dread Orc (Poisonbow) (i love them )

-Location

•N/A* (*A very little part of Minas Morgul)

-Skill/Abilitys

•Summon Morgul Dread Orc (Poisonbow)
•Use Drop Fallen Heads (Tactical)
•Use Skill (Critical Hits)



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-Player8

•The Third Age Company/Fellowship (Third Age Game)

-Heros

•Berethor Guard Of Gondor (Captain)
•Idrial The Beatiful
•Hadhod The Dwarf
•Morwen Maiden Of Rohan
•Eaoden Eorlinga Of Rohan
•Elegost Ranger Of The North

-Unit

•Dúnedain Of Gondor
•Gondor Archer (Shortbow)
•Gondor Archer (Crossbow)
•Gondor Archer (Longbow)

-Special Units

•Gondor Rider (White Swan Of Dol Amroth)

-Location

•N/A

-Skill/Abilitys

•Summon Gondor Rider (White Swan Of Dol Amroth) (Twice)
•Use Boiling Oil (Tactical)
•Use Skill (Arrow Volley)

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-Map tileset
•Jungle

-Map size
•256x256


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Introduction
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•Mordor and Morgul must destroy Gondor for win (the White Citadel i mean)
•Gondor and Rohan must defend Gondor for win (all Minas Tirith and logically the White Citadel)
•Ligth Heros must defend Gondor and help them in the battle camp.
•Dark Heros must defend Morgul Emcapment and help Orcish Forces to destroy Gondor.

•The Human Forces must defend Gondor,when the countdown finish,they will win,the same thing for the heros,and on the contrary,Orcish forces must destroy Gondor before.



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Features
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-Player Interface
•A Defence map whit new things and ideas.

-What's new in your map that others have not done before?
•A new enemy interface
•ALL (i mean ALL!!!!!) Heros from Books
•ALL (i mean ALL!!!!!) Heros from Movies
•ALL (i mean ALL!!!!!) Heros from Games
•Heros from Others Sources
•New Skills and Abilitys
•A new upgrade and purchase-units system, that help the hero in the battle
•Tactical Warfare Locations Squares,If you build a pylon on a square,you will seize that tactical area and you will obtain new weapons like Catapults,traps,defences,etc... that help you in the battle for defend or conquer the zone.
•Details and realistic terrain (or i think so ) whit capturable citys (like Harlond port or the Anduin River)
•Enviroment System,you can use some special actions like prpeare siege traps,siege towers and ladders,jump some walls,cross the river banks,open and close gates,use secret transports,build Makeshift barricades and bridges or launch amphibious attacks.
•Real LOTR Events,like the surprise orcish water-attack,the reinforcements from Khand,Harad or Undead Army.
•Secundary heros,heros that you cant' control but that appear in the middle of the battle (like if they're fightin' there )
•Great Songs themes based on the LOTR-OST* (like 5 or 6 )
(*Ill delete them to the Bbnet Version)
•New units and war machines that never have appeared on other LOTR Defence maps and a large number of buildings (including the orcish forces)
•A Archery-Tower system that can help you in the battle throwing arrows on your enemys (building them of course)
•And much much much more!



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Details
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-Characters
•You know,Ghotmog and Witch King,Aragon,Legolas,Gimli,Theoden,Eowyn,Elladan,Elrohir,Halbarad,etc..Whit new people like Edesan,Anborn or Madril and furhtemore the people that have played The Third Age of EA Games will be happy about this (or i hope so )

-Weapons
•New weapons like poison arrows,corsairs ships,vechicles or icnluding the heads of the fallen gondorian soldiers will be here!

-Items
•N/A

-Spells
•A large amount of spells will be usable here! You can use storms,plagues and all these,and by the way,Gandalf can do some groovy things too

-This map is made by me and RPD_Kevin.I need told that thanks for all people that triyed to help me whit this map like MP)Excalibur whit Osgiliath info,TooCoolToBeTrue whit some triggers and lag problems and Falkoner who helped me all the time.

But,the only problem is that i can make this map,becouse of lag,so i need help whit it,i triyed all whit this map,but if you guys wanna see and play this map,you will help me whit this "little" problem

See you!



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Screenshots / Demo
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Here are a few images about the map.I hope that you like it!

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Looks amazing, release date?

Also, why don't you upload all of your old maps onto here? They're quite popular on SC.

This looks a bit like a combination of Protect the President and Helm's Deep. I like the idea of adding special abilities though. Also, you really added all information anyone could need for anything. Good luck.

Hi there guys!



The map is more or less done,i only need to put some new triggers,but in theory this map is playable rigth now.



Really? I've only saw a few of them on Bbnet,but,the reason becouse of i wont' post my maps here is that im very bad with english,and some of them have got some english problems.Furthmore,at least he 98% of my maps have got sounds and are too big to post them.

By the way,this is weird,you criticized me in my other map and now this...Sorry, but why? why are you tellin' me this? After all,thank for the support.



Yeh,this is soemthin' like that,have got much ifluences fom other maps like Rommel's Minas Trith or Batle For Osgiliath.

The onl problem that i've is that i cant' make it .I need someone to help me whit a lag problem,becouse at the begginin' the Orcish player "crush down" and the game need him to play it.So if someone are interested only contact me.

Holy poop. This is HUGE.

You sure you're gonna have enough triggers/sprites/locations?

I think his main problem will be the sheer amount of units. I would say that many units would cause lag on most systems.

just a tip, i would REALLY recommend having a unit cap. its so simple a concept, yet i have never seen it done(except when i've used it).

what it is is meant to prevent CCMU and just lag in general. make it so that if enemy has ### units on map already and its time for a spawn, don't spawn until he has fewer than ### units.

Hi there!



Hell yeh,all is finished practically,except some triggers (they're not very important)

And actually, this map dont' have much sprites.



Yes,but how the hell can i fix that? i've triyed to delete and remove sounds,units,sprites,dodoads etc... and dont' work.The only player that dont' work is the orcish forces (player4) so...im still waitin' if soemone wanna help me whit this progect



What the hell is that? I think that i got the idea but i dunno how to do it.



I've triyed to do that with other type of triggers (dont' horde) but nothin'.I hate this freakin' crap and its really depressin' coz like at the fisrt second the player 4 is dropped instantly.

Like i told before if someone wanna help me whit the lag elimination ill be eternal grateful.But i've putted so much effort on it and now dont' work...

well...

See you!

Wow you got alot of info on this! Im looking forward to playing this map it looks like you put alot of time into it

Hi there!



Yah i know that.But i cant' play it becouse of lag

Oh by the way i forgot the Nazguls skills, so here are the skills...

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-Skill/Abilitys

•Summon Nazguls
•Use Dark/Black Breath (Only Witch King)
•Use Nazgul Screech
•Use Palantir Stone Vision*

(I putted this ability on the units/special units section.My bad)

That's all,maybe ill put more images.But,if no one help me whit this,this progect whill be closed coz i cant' do nothin whit the lag.

See you!

You should work on making the game lag less This game seems like it would be really fun to play on battle net

YES! Thanks you for finally making a Minas Tirith map, it's about time someone did!

I just got the PC game The Battle for Middle-Earth. Minas Tirith was pretty easy in there, you just mass archers in the second level and get a few knights to trample anything that gets close. When Rohan came, I used hit-and-run tactics to clean up the camps (and to avoid the mumak). When Aragorn showed up, I was already winning.

Mumak is pleural by the way, Mumakil is singular.

Someone did make one before, only it was just like Helm's Depp, with a little changed terrain and unit names.

very good ideas but i would really suggest you relook the style of the terrain no offensive but i recon you could do better

Hey...



Oh,really?



Yah...



LoL,you can dl a lot of maps about LOTR especially Minas and Helms Deeps.

But again,i cant' finisg this map without help.



Ok,thanks about that info.



Not at all,this game dont' have much seem with the otherr maps about LOTR.My new map have got a lot of new units,events,characters,terrain and stuff and is totally different of MM Guilds map.



Thats' good one ,the terrain is pretty good and i worked very hard on it.By the way,you cant' talk much about the terrain coz you dindnt' saw it,so dont' piss me off...



LOL

i have seen it no need to get uptight ... but you should have a rethink about the way the grass has been placed down like on the second to last pic... :S
but not off the point
good luck with the rest of the map and hope it goes well for ya.

The terrain definitely needs to be extensively revised.

Looks good, but honestly, I think Osgiliath is waaay too big. The main focus point should be on Minas Tirith, since the Battle for Osgiliath was nowhere near as exciting as for MT (unless you like Catapults and River Crossing).

And you can shorten some of the unit names.. like "White Swan of Dol Amroth" can just be called a "Swan Knight" (that's technically what they're called, anyways). And you can also get rid of some heroes.. like Denethor II didn't play a huge role in the battle... so he's kind of pointless to put in

well, the general concept is, if there are ### units on map, don't spawn the next wave. theres a bunch of ways to do this.

the absolute best way(IMO) is having a conconsistent flow of units. personally, i think it helps maintain the feel of being overwhelmed by unending enemy armies.

it is EXTREMELY easy to do and doesn't rely on timers.



you see, very simple . All you got to do is fill in '###' with a sweetspot value that satisfies balance and lag issues. you can also make one trig for each unit type, so they respawn independently.


now, if you want to include timers, then do this:



that tracks how many waves should have, but haven't spawned (due to the unit cap). then, as soon as you're under the unit cap, it'll dispense the 'backlogged waves.'


while this likely won't solve the lag issues, it'll reduce unnecessary lag from massing.

Hi there!



Ok,ill take that tip about the terrain.But,i repeat it again,i've been worked on the terrain very hard so dont' piss off about that (and im NOT a professional terrain maker) But thanks anyway.



The map dont work yet...




Like i told before,dont piss me off...



Exactly, Osgiliath is very big,but Osgiliath has been the "real" city of Gondor long time ago,in the meantime Minas Tirith only has been a great Guard tower/citadel.I've wanted to capture the great old and royal citadel of Gondor,and,furthemore,Osgiliath is really more big than Minas Tirith (i mean on extension,buildings and all these)

Quite! In my map Minas Tirith is the main and the most important orcish objetive.The truly action takes place on the Pelennor Fields,in front of Minas Tirith.But you can figth and assault other little locations and near citys like Harlond Port,Rammas Echor or some villages arround the White City (like in the book )
But,yah,i know what you say when you told me that.I just love Osgiliath,so i've putted it into my map.And finally,yah,i use the river crossing,landing grounds,secret attacks and catapults too ) But after all,Osgiliath Ruins,are one of the most important and tactical points that have Gondor against Mordor,thats why Denethor take order about re-take the city (you know,the Faramir's counter attack,where he was wounded) So,in my map,Osgiliath is REALLY important (especially the landing grounds,the ports and the bridge of course)



Ok,i deleted some unecessary names and more short.And well,about the Swans,they're called whit many names,i only like that name) But,anyway thanks for the tip,coz is interesting and very constructive.



Well,one of the most important and interesting points that have my map is the inclusion of all the heros from the books,movies,games and other sources.And Dnethor II is very important,i know that he dont' take part in the battle,but in the books he's more interestin' and "active" that the movie (in the movies he's like a stupid/sucker old man ,and that was gay) But anyway,i putted him there.



Wow! thanks you so much buddy! Nah,really,i got it and i think that could work! .I think that part is easy to me and i think that i could try to make it.




But i dont got this...I mean,i got some ideas,but..The Orcish army is huge (really,HUGE!) and have got a lot of different units and heros so...And other problem is that i've got all the "timers" triggers completed,and deleted them now is a pain in the ass...But if the map works,ill do your idea pretty sure!

By the way,can i ask you help in personal please? you've given me hope and ideas so...thanks you again!

If you can and want offer some help,only send me a private-msg (if not,ill think that you're bussy or somethin' )

I know that the main idea and triggers are there,but i want you for help me in my map i mean an unprotected version)But i just dunno how to do them perfectly,i know,im really sucker whit the triggers,but i've putted a lot of hard work on this map (i think that must be the most detailed and worked map that i've maked)

Well,i hope that you send me a msg.if not,thanks for the help-try...

See you,and thanks again!












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By the way,here are some new images about the game.

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And this is how the "Tactical Areas" work.


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(First of all,build a pylon...)

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(When the pylon is ready in a square zone...)

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(we've mastered a tactical area! In this case,a trebuchet will help us in the battle.Logically,the Orcish Forces have got other effects and combiantions. )

And the rest of 'em!

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Well,i hoope an answer.Oh! if someone see some bug or think that this could be better only tell me...

See you people!

from personal experience, i've found the 'sweet spot' to be 150 units per 64 tiles of 'frontlines.' Another way to ease the unit count is to have high HP and low attack - this way, units die slower and the attacker won't be in a mad frenzy to send units to the front(this also allows room and time for strategic thinking). Don't be afraid to cause a little bit of lag either, both gameplay and lag management are essential and you really just have to compromise the two.



i really don't have the time and motivation to actually work on a map right now . of course, i don't mind designing trigger systems and providing mapmaking assistace on occasion.

Hi there! woops! sorry! the images about my map has been messed up by the connection

Well...



Mmmm,i agree whit that idea .You mean somethin' like the Minas Tirith of Rommel attk/hp balance rigth? Honestly,in all case,for sure,ill take a look to the units stats.Like you told before,i want that my map will be fresh and original,not just a copy or the same and typical LOTR Defence map.This should be tactical and attractive,thats' why i've putted "Tactical Zones" too



Awww man! .Its' ok,i know that,i mean that feelin' of not have motivation or time to work or help on a map.(all my hopes have fallen into the oblivion )

Nah,really,thanks you so much anyway.You're the only one that believes in this map and dont' criticize me about my bad english,you're triyin' to help me whit my map-problems and also,givin' me ideas,so thanks you again!

Ill try to finish this map! I've putted a lot of work on it and i wont' abandon it like my others 44456178 maps xD

By the way,if you want' to be a tester (if you've time of course ) only PM me!

Ok buddy ,

See you!

If you're in Europe, I can help testing. I'm not sure how much though, as I've got other stuff to do.

Looks like it will be a good map, may even give my Minas Tirith a run for its money in popularity.

Hi there!



Ok,could be nice idea



Ermm,really,i didnt' ask you about help,so if you're bussy dont' help me



He he,wow,this is a truly honor,you're one of the most notables map makers (or at least for me) that i saw in SC World.

But,i dont' think that my map can be better than your awesome work.Anyhow,you've been a great influence for my map,and in my opinion,your map is the best map about quality,ideas,terrain and the most accurate compared whit the movies.(except the last version,that one was a poor and crapie version)

Well,whatever,thanks you so much

Oh,just a question,are you Olem too? Or he's other person?

Ok,buddy!n

See you!