Report, edit, etc...Posted by smasher25 on 2007-01-20 at 00:08:48
This video shows one of the craziest feats that Korean Pro gamers acheived.
It shows the manevour of three marines against a lurker.
These guys have crazy control over three marines and can avoid the spines.
Check this out:
http://bbs2.tvpot.media.daum.net/griffin/d...y=&searchValue=
It shows the manevour of three marines against a lurker.
These guys have crazy control over three marines and can avoid the spines.
Check this out:
http://bbs2.tvpot.media.daum.net/griffin/d...y=&searchValue=
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zell.Dincht on 2007-01-20 at 01:21:08
Dude thats so cool. And to think youd be able to move three marines clockwise and counter without getting hit by a spine. I wish I was able to do that, just imagine other tactics with like different units againts other attacks your able to dodge.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2007-01-20 at 08:53:01
Dodging spikes isn't that hard... play some of the newest micro maps and it will most likely be in there. However moving 3 at the same time is skilled, I highly doubt it is real. Why? because if you have all 3 selected and you click move they will all move to the same spot, if you select them one by one and move you would have to do it fast, and the fact that they all moved simultaneously leads me to believe it was just korean pro video editing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2007-01-20 at 09:47:16
They couldn't move simultaneously. You can't have your mouse cursor in three places at once.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2007-01-20 at 10:15:08
QUOTE(Shocko @ Jan 20 2007, 09:53 AM)
Dodging spikes isn't that hard... play some of the newest micro maps and it will most likely be in there. However moving 3 at the same time is skilled, I highly doubt it is real. Why? because if you have all 3 selected and you click move they will all move to the same spot, if you select them one by one and move you would have to do it fast, and the fact that they all moved simultaneously leads me to believe it was just korean pro video editing.
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Actually, the person who did do it explained how it was done. I think it was something like it takes .9 seconds for a marine to refire, and some other stuff like that. I saw it actually done too in game, from the players actual computer, so I saw the cursor, etc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by green_meklar on 2007-01-20 at 10:59:48
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Actually, the person who did do it explained how it was done. I think it was something like it takes .9 seconds for a marine to refire, and some other stuff like that.
So you mean he orders them while they're firing and then they all activate the move order at the same time or something?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2007-01-20 at 11:00:25
I somehow doubt that somebody could move 3 marines at the same time in a perfect sequence dodging lurkers one at a time... it's just too much to be done.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LazyCoder on 2007-01-20 at 11:59:43
Unless they set the game speed to super slow. (nobody thought of that?)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zell.Dincht on 2007-01-20 at 12:23:48
Well, if theres a video about it done, and explained how it was done. It must be real, and I highly doubt it was on slow. Because the marines would move as slow as a lurker so yeah.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2007-01-20 at 12:41:47
http://sclegacy.com/features/pimpestplays_2004.php
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Warning: The following play is so good, it's bordering on unreal. It was first revealed in dyo's movie about clan Shock Squadron, which you can download here (dyo was also the compiler of the Pimpest Plays 2002/2003 movie which you can download here). The play involves three Marines vs two Lurkers. The Marines are positioned in a triangle while one of them walks left and right to dodge both Lurkers, one positioned above him and one below. Then the two lower Marines run up to the second Lurker, once again forming a perfect triangle. Except this time, all three Marines shoot, then rotate simultaneously clockwise, and then again counter-clockwise, and so forth until the Lurker is dead. The thing is, it looks as if all three Marines are moving at the same exact time, which is near impossible for human hands. At first people were shocked and amazed, then they began questioning if this was authentic. To be honest, it does seem very much set up. Someone suggested that it had something to do with putting it on the slowest setting. Some said it might have been lag, and others were thinking hacks. So TraToss decided to explain it himself:
It's quite easy to explain how it works. Imagine that each Marine has one clip. It takes 0.9 seconds to empty one clip. So I bind these Marines with the ctrl buttons 1, 2, and 3. Then I order them all to fire at the Lurker. Even if I'd order a Marine to move while he's still shooting at the Lurker, he won't because the 0.9 seconds to empty his current clip isn't over yet. But when the clip is finished, he’ll follow the orders that were given to him while he was firing. So after these Marines began to fire, I ordered the first marine to move on the 0.2th second, the second - on the 0.5th second and the third – on the 0.8th second. And after the 0.9th second they all moved together so it looked like this order was given at once. If you’d look carefully, you’ll see that there was a short delay between when the first and the second Marine began to move. The cursor was moving around the lurker and I was clicking in the same rhyme.
Even then, some people continued to question him, so his final word on the matter was:
I've spent a month to be able to do this. A month for a 15 seconds. Is it really so hard to click four times per second? Some one told that it's impossible to kill one Lurker with a Marine. But the one gamer named Lim Yo Hwan (Boxer) didn't agree with that and proved everyone that it is possible. Today every pro-Terran can do this trick. Maybe I'm wrong, but I do believe that there is much more to know about StarCraft, and we have not reached the perfection yet. I'm just trying to find something new in this boundless universe of StarCraft and if you really want to believe that it was a fake and i'm just a low-skilled-fellow who conceited himelf as a professional, than I won't attempt to reconvince you.
Spoken like a true innovator. TraToss' desire to think outside the box and determination to perfect this amazing tactic earns him a spot in the Pimpest Plays of 2004.
there you go.It's quite easy to explain how it works. Imagine that each Marine has one clip. It takes 0.9 seconds to empty one clip. So I bind these Marines with the ctrl buttons 1, 2, and 3. Then I order them all to fire at the Lurker. Even if I'd order a Marine to move while he's still shooting at the Lurker, he won't because the 0.9 seconds to empty his current clip isn't over yet. But when the clip is finished, he’ll follow the orders that were given to him while he was firing. So after these Marines began to fire, I ordered the first marine to move on the 0.2th second, the second - on the 0.5th second and the third – on the 0.8th second. And after the 0.9th second they all moved together so it looked like this order was given at once. If you’d look carefully, you’ll see that there was a short delay between when the first and the second Marine began to move. The cursor was moving around the lurker and I was clicking in the same rhyme.
Even then, some people continued to question him, so his final word on the matter was:
I've spent a month to be able to do this. A month for a 15 seconds. Is it really so hard to click four times per second? Some one told that it's impossible to kill one Lurker with a Marine. But the one gamer named Lim Yo Hwan (Boxer) didn't agree with that and proved everyone that it is possible. Today every pro-Terran can do this trick. Maybe I'm wrong, but I do believe that there is much more to know about StarCraft, and we have not reached the perfection yet. I'm just trying to find something new in this boundless universe of StarCraft and if you really want to believe that it was a fake and i'm just a low-skilled-fellow who conceited himelf as a professional, than I won't attempt to reconvince you.
Spoken like a true innovator. TraToss' desire to think outside the box and determination to perfect this amazing tactic earns him a spot in the Pimpest Plays of 2004.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by smasher25 on 2007-01-20 at 17:03:39
Heh Yea that sorta shows it. And I suppose you know how fast Korean Pro gamers are. Their reflexes are unhuman.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zell.Dincht on 2007-01-20 at 17:05:57
QUOTE(smasher25 @ Jan 20 2007, 04:03 PM)
Heh Yea that sorta shows it. And I suppose you know how fast Korean Pro gamers are. Their reflexes are unhuman.
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Maybe thats why their good at games like shooters and strategy games ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2007-01-20 at 18:25:01
lol, on GUNZ there is a set of moves called KStyle as in Korean Style.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zell.Dincht on 2007-01-20 at 18:29:23
QUOTE(Shocko @ Jan 20 2007, 05:25 PM)
lol, on GUNZ there is a set of moves called KStyle as in Korean Style.
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Thats what I meant in how their good.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2007-01-21 at 20:01:56
hahaha. Racism, jealousy, ignorance, anything to avoid the fact that this guy is better than you right? I mean that is the basic truth here, and none of you are willing to admit it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2007-01-21 at 20:24:54
Yeah, because where else is Starcraft on TV again?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2007-01-21 at 20:39:34
QUOTE(Shocko @ Jan 20 2007, 01:53 PM)
Dodging spikes isn't that hard... play some of the newest micro maps and it will most likely be in there. However moving 3 at the same time is skilled, I highly doubt it is real. Why? because if you have all 3 selected and you click move they will all move to the same spot, if you select them one by one and move you would have to do it fast, and the fact that they all moved simultaneously leads me to believe it was just korean pro video editing.
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I love watching korean starleague. It helps me with melee soooo much. SlayerS_'BoxeR' is a god!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2007-01-21 at 21:39:01
I love watching the pimpest plays 
I wish I was as good as those people but I suck at melee and find it boring unless im watching those videos
I wish I was as good as those people but I suck at melee and find it boring unless im watching those videosReport, edit, etc...Posted by Zell.Dincht on 2007-01-21 at 22:02:17
QUOTE(Oo.Insane.oO @ Jan 21 2007, 08:39 PM)
I love watching the pimpest plays I wish I was as good as those people but I suck at melee and find it boring unless im watching those videos
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How can you find melee boring? Its only fun if your use to the long waiting for minerals. And who ur matched up againts if the person has skill or not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by smasher25 on 2007-01-22 at 01:44:50
I heard that ppl in South Korea are watching the pros playing Starcraft rather than playing it themselves these days. I can see why it lowers your self esteem when you have a blast watching their pro skills and you dont even have 1/100th of their talent.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2007-01-22 at 01:54:06
QUOTE(PwnPirate @ Jan 21 2007, 05:01 PM)
hahaha. Racism, jealousy, ignorance, anything to avoid the fact that this guy is better than you right? I mean that is the basic truth here, and none of you are willing to admit it.
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No, it's all about the thousands of hours of practice.
QUOTE(smasher25 @ Jan 21 2007, 10:44 PM)
I heard that ppl in South Korea are watching the pros playing Starcraft rather than playing it themselves these days. I can see why it lowers your self esteem when you have a blast watching their pro skills and you dont even have 1/100th of their talent.
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Take melee classes then!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2007-01-22 at 04:38:42
Is it true that soon Korean pro games will get paid more than football players in the US?
About the video: there was already a topic, that had a video that contained that particular moment. This is just a short part. Indeed amazing.
About the video: there was already a topic, that had a video that contained that particular moment. This is just a short part. Indeed amazing.