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Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2007-02-02 at 17:45:07
Who do you think will win the format wars? I personally hope Blu-Ray wins. When it finally gets down to a reasonable price range and computers come standard with Blu-Ray writers, like DVD drives of today, a single layer disc will have 25GB of data. HD-DVD can't match that, except with a quadruple layer disc.

HD-DVD
+Cheaper
+Porn industry
-Less data
-I can't think of another negative

Blu-Ray
+The memory
+PS3 comes standard with a Blu-Ray player
-Price for a standalone unit
-The memory is excessive
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2007-02-02 at 17:57:59
You can easily fit a 1080p movie on an HDDVD. However, the video quality difference between DVD and 720/1080p is going to be much less noticeable than between VHS and DVD. On a side note, Blu-Ray has slower read/write times than HDDVD. Also historically, the Porn Industry has decided the next gen wars (who knows how large a part it will play this time however with the advent of mainstream broadband).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2007-02-02 at 18:26:17
I don't think either of them will end up being very successful, however, I think HD-DVD will end up being the most sucessful of the both of them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2007-02-02 at 22:05:10
It says Blu-Ray's are beating HDDVD's by a ratio of 2:1 now, but that's only because of the included player in the PS3. Neither of them are selling well because people don't really care about the differences (more might if they had 1080p or even 720p televisions, but alas, not everyone has a spare $3000 for a nice home theater system).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2007-02-02 at 22:15:08
Once they are more common, I honestly think whichever one is cheaper will win, from the media itself, to the players, etc.

Also, the HD-DVD expansion on the XBOX 360 I believe is compatible with PCs, if that's the case then that's a kick-ass buy for now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowFlare on 2007-02-03 at 01:39:36
Yeah, there are many people using the HD-DVD drive that is for the XBox 360 on their PCs, since they cost less than other drives apparently (~$200). Although, I'm sure that doesn't come with any HD-DVD player software for Windows.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheatEnabled on 2007-02-03 at 06:13:29
HD-DVD will win, because it's cheaper. It's like with the PS3. It costs a lot, and people buy XboX360 instead. With XboX360 you can play HD-DVD disks, and that makes even more people buy HD-DVD. So yeah, HD-DVD is going for the win.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2007-02-03 at 09:39:32
In reality, it's kind of pointless to buy a Blu-Ray/HDDVD player right now. One format might not win, and then whoever bought that player will be out of luck. Also, in a year or two, they will be cheaper and better (faster read/write times, more fancy gadgets on the players, etc.).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2007-02-03 at 14:08:37
I think tangible data formats are dead. No one actually carries data around with them physically anymore, it's all over the internet now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2007-02-03 at 14:25:17
Is that so? What about driving in a car? I don't have a computer in my car(actually, I don't have a car, but I wouldn't have a computer in my car if I did)

Besides, downloading takes time. And as new HD files get larger and larger, so do download times. You wouldn't be able to let your friend borrow a movie as easily.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2007-02-03 at 15:39:14
QUOTE(dumbducky @ Feb 3 2007, 02:25 PM)
Is that so?  What about driving in a car?  I don't have a computer in my car(actually, I don't have a car, but I wouldn't have a computer in my car if I did)

Besides, downloading takes time.  And as new HD files get larger and larger, so do download times.  You wouldn't be able to let your friend borrow a movie as easily.
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Your car has a computer, its called the transmission.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2007-02-03 at 16:15:08
True, but my transmission doesn't have access to the internet. And it won't for quite some time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pie_Sniper on 2007-02-03 at 17:35:45
Just wait until the internet is a bunch of lasers beaming up to satellites and download time will be non-existant. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2007-02-03 at 17:39:04
Last time Sony and VHS had a "war" VHS won because they got the porn industry with them, Sony didn't want porn on their discs, therefore they went to VHS and outsold Sony's tecnique (can't remember the name). Now Sony is doing the same thing again, they don't want to have porn on their discs, therefore I think HD-DVD will win.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2007-02-03 at 17:50:37
Except this is where the internet comes into play. I'm pretty sure there's more porn on the internet than there is on DVD. After all, google porn and you get thousands of hits.

And your thinking of BetaMax.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowFlare on 2007-02-03 at 18:02:58
QUOTE(scwizard @ Feb 3 2007, 01:08 PM)
I think tangible data formats are dead. No one actually carries data around with them physically anymore, it's all over the internet now.
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Of course tangible data formats are needed. At least in the form of rewritable things anyway. The data has to come from somewhere for it to get sent over the internet. tongue.gif Plus there are those people who actually want to have an archive of things (or, in other words, a backup). closedeyes.gif Tangible data formats will never be dead. Possibly as far as being used as a distribution medium, but no other uses will be eliminated in the near future (and not remotely likely in the distant future either, in my opinion).
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