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In the abortions topic, someone mentioned:


and then someone else says:



Reading those two posts, Im reminded of something I read a while ago. Simply put, those events wouldve happend anyway. Using WWII as an example: ideas and designs were being pumped at a brisk pace to contribute to the war. Lets use the A-bombs in this scenario; it was developed for one reason or another to help put an end to the war. But lets pretend that there was never a war at all. At some point near that war-less time period, that idea wouldve spawned inside someones head.

No wait; Im reminded of an episode of the Twilight Zone now.
In it, someone was sent back in time to kill Hitler when he was a mere infant. He was drowned with his killer, but there was no stopping another to take his place.

SUMMARY: A destiny, a fate, a set of railroad tracks to follow and must be carried out despite any changes.
RESPONSE: Do you believe that it is fate and destiny, or that we actually create our own paths?

Yeah, this whole topic jumped around for a bit.

I don't know if that's entirely true. Have you ever heard of the butterfly effect? It states that if in one plain of reality a butterfly were to flap its wing, it might cause someone else to go homicidal in another plain of reality. So maybe by aborting a baby, something great happens to the world because of that....or with something else. maybe if hitler had not had three eggs one morning and only had one, maybe america would be run by nazis or something...

What does eggs have to do with world domination?

precisely! The butterfly effect is based off of many non related things happen in a chain, but each are influenced by the event that happened before it!

I probably make no sense huh?

As in, his having 3 eggs causing this 1 person to not go hungry and starve to death, and his life would cause the Nazi's to prevail and eventualy take over USA?

That what you mean? If so, then it's just common sense.

I have a pretty good idea how the Chaos Theory works, but in this point Im trying to make, instead of one action branching out into several others its results, my post goes in the other end and have one action branching out insto several others, but with a limited and few results, and all those paths returning to one point.

I didn't completely understand that.

Now, what happened to the split universe theory, that new universes are constantly being made with all possible events that can occur happening, like a new universe being made quintillions of tiems within a period of 0.0000...1 seconds right now, in which I instead don't post, which leads to googleplexes of googleplexes of more possibilities which all keep branching out infinitely times infinitely times in infitismaly small amount of times?

Okay, I think I went overboard with detial...

Okay, lemme try some visual analogy. Lets say youre loosely holding a few dozen strands of string with your thumb and finger; the one end point where youre holding them all represents your initial action, while the other ends show the consequences of that action. And say those strings are frayed, so there are even more consequences from those.

What Im saying is that you hold all the other ends together in a similar fashion with your other hand; although there are many different consequences from the initial action, the very end result will be the one and same.

Heres what would ahve happen
:Hitler farted in a tactical metting, caseuing the whole room to go away,a dn thus breaking his line of thought that would have evolved into a stragety to rule the world.

If he only had one egg, the fart woundt have been as bad, and he would have finsihed thinking his stragety and the world would be run by Nazis


-But serioisly, ive often wondered that when lieing down "If i dont get up, I might break the balance of Ying/Yang and a Black Hole might rip though and destroy the earth

Its quite possible that a seris of events ahs kept your world from oblivion and we are just all very very lucky

What the Chaos Teory says is that a little change in on point in the univers will create a change that will affect all the univers, making other things happen in the other sides of the univers.

Usually that change is really little, so the things that it makes happen are as little as we cannot note them, that's why that teory can seem "silly".

I don't really like the words "fate" and "destiny" because of the divine connotations that follow it. I don't believe in free will even though I'm atheist. Everything we do is simply a reaction to something - we are all subject to the stimuli we recieve. Isn't that just great? We're all just a bunch-o-molecules that follow some pattern.

Destiny... That would mean we are being controlled, it wouldn't matter if we do something one way or another. There would be any reason to live for.
Just try to have fun!

hey uhh that butter fly thing is called the "Chaos Theroy" not butterfly effect that just makes chaos sound peachy

Its the same thing; Chaos theory IS Butterfly Effect, but called the latter since the visual representation of this theory looks a lot like a butterfly.