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What do you think about Same-Sex Marriages, and what do you think about them adopting children?

Let the sick people lead their sad lives... But there is no reason to make a law banning it.

Its There Life So I Have To Say Theres Nothing Wrong With It If They Want To Live That Way And If They're Happy Then There Should Not Be Anything Wrong With It Because Its THEY'RE life and not yours.

(I Realy Hate People Judging People Because I Have Cerbral Palsy And Its Offencive If People Judge You And They Don't Know You )

Heck no same-sex marriages shouldn't adopt. It's just plain wierd. Same-sex can't have babies for a reason and for that reason they shouldn't get adoption.

2 gay men raising a boy... boy turns gay or both ways
If they raise a girl, girl will be a psycho
2 lesbians raising a girl... girl goes lesbian or both ways
If they raise a boy, boy goes both ways

It's just plain wierd, although it's their life and I'm not supposed to care...
Plain wierd having 2 fathers or 2 moms...
The child will have severe psychological damage and sexual mind damage because he/she don't know if gay/straight is right or wrong...

I Totatly Agree With That Though

I think its ok cuz lesbos are hot you know jk i have a sick mind /perv mind

I think there ok sortof... it can destroy there lifes by alot. If you know wat i mean.

Question is, what do YOU think of said subject?

I prefer that when a topic creator introduces an idea into serious discussions that they would at least start off with some views of their own, rather than just sit there and ask a question; anyone can do that.

Well she is the only girl in forums, so I think she should be able to do that without us complaining.

Anyways yes I agree, although it won't matter much if the child is gay/lesbo because he/she will think it's ok. The problem is the child will have a big psycological problem.

I dont agree at all, why would a boy raised by 2 men become gay? I'm sure that when that boy even starts thinking about stuff like that he will be old enought to make up hios own mind.

I dont think theres anything wrong at all with people loving people of their same sex.

edit: about the posts above: I'm sure she will say what she thinks later, anyway saying that she can do it because she is a girl is just.. wrong

Because when he/she is very little, he sees what his parents do and all he/she knows will be about gay. You can't be what you don't know, although there are outside influences like friends telling the child what is gay/straight.



I agree, gay and/or lesbo can love whoever they want.

I don't know what I think about the topic yet, thats why I posted this. I wanted some other opinions on it.

And to address the topic itself:

I dont see why people are making such a big fuss over this gay marriage thing, nor how other people marrying people of the same sex affects them. Theyre just the same as other people; they just prefer the company of the same sex, so let them do what they want already. Its not like theyre out to turn the whole country into their sexual preference.



Unless you were raised by gay parents yourself, you shouldnt be so quick to judge that its going to be weird.

Nor should there be some sort of psuedo-double standard: by the same logic that if two fathers raise a kid and that kid becomes gay himself, wouldnt two straight parents have straight kids then? Not always!



At this point, Im thinking theres some bias here. How can they be mentally damaged just from having gay parents? Severe, no less! More likely than not the kid will be explained their lifestyles; when he sees other kids and their mom and dad, as opposed to him with two moms or two dads, he'll ask!

If youre open-minded, there IS NO right or wrong in sexual preferences. Its only a matter "right or wrong" if youre on the same mindset as those opposing gay marriage and such.

And when he does ask and knows the truth his/her world will some crashing down because a lot of new stuff just became available and making a lot of things wrong/right changing the kid's thinking maner.

"Oh dear lord, my parents are homosexuals, a lifestyle which isnt the common norm with everyone else! oh noes!"

So his mind has been opened; whos to say that his thinking wont improve for the better? Why would it get worse? And elaborate on what this "new stuff" would be.

bah, when your a little kid you dont think about any stuff like that anyway, a child is a child and maybe the child will be affected and become homosexual when he/she grows up but how does that matter? its not like the entire human raise will change and there will be no more children...

I was going to make a same-sex marriage thread, FireKame, but you beat me to it. Ahem...

Okay, first of all, I'd like to pose a question: "How will same-sex marriages threaten the institution of marriage?" Everyone try and think of an answer to that. Here's my answer - it won't. Yet the bill proposed by the Bush administration would ban them for that very reason. Well, let's try to get to the deeper issue here, which is prejudice. But first things first, let's hit the facts on the head. If gay marriage is legalized, heterosexual couples will still be able to be married. Marriage is a politically-recognized status, and not necessarily a religious one. Yet Bush is assuming that his religious definition of marriage applies to everyone in America. If we ban gay marriages because they don't fit the Evangelical Christian definition of marriage, then we should also ban Islamic marriages and Jewish marriages, as they don't fit the bill either. Bush's argument is already fundamentally flawed, and I've only written a few sentences. Now, on to the real issue: prejudice. The people who want to ban gay marriage are afraid. They're afraid of people who are different from them. They find butt sex repulsive (as do I, as a matter of fact). And so, in an effort to stop people from doing it, or an effort toget revenge on these people for putting such a nasty idea in their heads, they have tried to pass this bill. But what exactly gives the Bush administration the right to decide how other people should live their lives. Who says that they are the moral authority, who always knows what is right? According to Bush's own beliefs, it is not his place to judge his fellow man. In attempting to do so he does nothing but undermine his own credibility. No matter how much I dislike the idea of gay men having sex (or hitting on me), I have no opposition to other people finding happiness. Their bodies are their own, and they can do whatever they want with them.

Anyone have any comments or anything? I want to hear some other points of view.

Edit:


Holy crap, man. What can I say to this? You offer NO PROOF to back up your irrational statements, and you assume that your version of right and wrong applies to everyone else... How close-minded can you get?

Okay, here's my question for you: What exactly makes you think that two men raising a child will automatically transform that child into a homosexual or bisexual person? I have a lot of gay friends, and every single one of them tells me that they knew that something about them was different before they ever consciously thought about their sexuality. They said that they were just born that way. By the way, just out of curiosity, just how many gay people have you actually met in your life?

When the hcild is very young it will learn gay first before straight, because when one is young they spend more time in the house, thus thinking men/men or women/women is what everyone does.
I don't know about that gays where born that way. I have a frined who like hit on every woman that moved literally. He then went to a gay party thinking he could get it on with a couple of lesbians and he ended up gay after the party. I don't think someone is born gay he/she chooses to be gay.
Hmmm... that i know of I know 3 gays that say that they are gay, but me and my frineds think some more at shchool are gay but they don't admit it.
Making it at about 5.

As was stated by mobojojo, straight parents could result in homosexual children, so why can't homosexual parents(well, foster-parents) have straight children?

Also, what's wrong with that?
If they end up having homosexual children, how does that hurt you?
They're different from the average person their age will be for their lives, and that hurts us how?

It wouldn't matter if people didn't gain an irrational prejudice against things that are different from themselves.

OMG my dad like peanutbutter with olive oil and black pepper!
He has a different food preferance from me, OMG I should stay away from him, he's going to ruin my life![/sarcasm]

As long as the gays don't take me to be one, I'm okay with them.

EDIT: Of course, my view is probably heavily prejudiced by the fact that I myself am different from my peers at school, in that I can actualy learn and pay attention, I know more than nothing, I don't resort to random flame when someone shows a slightly highger intelligence than mine, and I like to read, among other things

But still, what I said does make more sense than the anti-homo-sexual-phoster-parenting view, as far as I can ell

I'm perfectly fine with homosexuality, I think that really it's up to them to how they lead their lives. There is no reason why we should review the constitution or make a law about about it, The Bible says that it's Man and Woman eternally. We're not all Christain, we're not all a religeon. Like me I'm an Atheist. I also think it's perfectly fine with same-sex couples to raise their child that was adopted.

I don't appretiate people saying things like "You're Gay!" if you do something that's just you. You know what, if I'm gay. Then what are you? I think you're just afriad to express your true feelings for sexes. Like stated I don't have a problem with homosexuals.

(I know someone is going to say "You're Gay!" in the next post, and then say J/k.)

Some of you people have way too many prejudices... I mean, what's with thinking gay + gay = gay? People were born for millenias from what we consider "normal" parents (male + female), and we have homosexuals. Don't see why the opposite shouldn't also be considered...

Personally, I have nothing against same-sex marriages or adoption. They are a (weird, maybe) couple, but they have the right to have (a) child(ren). Honestly, society needs to slack-off on things they still can't understand. Try it, and if it goes wrong (god knows how...), just make more strict laws against it.


And no, the world can't turn out completly "gay" cuz some people are.

it may have the opposite effect on kids; if they grow up in a home with two fathers, then what if they hate homosexuals even more, until they kill them or something more extreme?

btw to answer how many gay people do I know, I know many gay guys, but not too many lesbians. Quite a few bi, and many poser gay people. i'm in the theater, that might have something to do with it...

I say. Same-Sex marriages should be illegal. I don't give a about Gays. The reason why I'm against it is cause It's not right same-sax marriages! Just not right.

To quote one of Gary Trudeau's characters, "If these people get into the arts, there'll be no stopping them!" .

I love how all of the statements against same-sex marriages offer no evidence except that they feel that it's wrong. Well, no one's forcing you to marry anyone of the same sex. What gives you the right to dictate how others can behave? What gives you the right to deny them a political status based on their sexuality? It doesn't matter how you feel, since you're not the ones who want to get married.

Believe it or not there have actually been studies on this sort of thing. A child raised by 2 homosexual parents is 30% more likely to become homosexual than a child raised by both a mother and father. Its the absence of the mother or father figure creates a child that is 70% more likely to become mentally unstable.

Most people do not accept homosexuals marrige because it isnt natural. Homosexuality is not something radically new in fact it goes back to the greeks who were quite open to it, but still a same sex marrige was not allowed. What people do in their own time/homes is one thing but allowing a same-sex marrige is another.



But it affects society as a whole. Which can have more effects than you may think.

My personal opinion on it is somewhat like I said above. What people do in their own time/homes is their business and not mine, but allowing a same-sex marrige is just not something I agree with at all.

Society only exists because of progress and change, otherwise we'd be in the stone age. What gives anyone the right to make the decision to stop society from evolving and changing?

I'd love to see some hard evidence of those statistics you quoted. I find their credibility highly doubtful, because homosexuality is not a "learned" trait (That's according to all of my homosexual friends. Friends with first-hand knowledge of the subject are credible enough for me). Also, just how many children have been raised by homosexual parents under close supervision of official studies in the last 20 years? Could it be that it's such a low number that random chance could have bumped the % in some direction? Could it be that no other factors were taken into account? Since environment apparently now affects your sexual orientation, what about the schools the children attended? What about their relationships with other people than their parents? What if the mental state that develops when a child is adopted affects their sexuality in some way? You have to consider every factor in a child's life if you want to make a broad generalization like that. Next time back it up with some proof.

This whole "right or wrong" concept that people keep bringing up pisses me off. What makes people think that their concept of right and wrong applies to everyone? Homosexuality isn't right or wrong, it's just a state of being. You make it wrong by giving it a label in the first place. Just because it offends you doesn't mean that you know right from wrong better than anyone else. Whether homosexuality is right or wrong has no relevance to this discussion, because right and wrong can mean 100 different things to 100 different people. What gives anyone the right to judge anyone else, anyway? Are you saying that your judgement of them somehow holds credence? According to the tenets of Christianity, it is not man's place to judge. That privelige is reserved for God. So start being good Christian zombies and do what the good book tells you.