Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-08-28 at 15:19:51
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Next version of Windows set for 2006
Advanced storage technology dropped from release
By Allison Linn
The Associated Press
Updated: 4:41 p.m. ET Aug. 27, 2004
SEATTLE - Microsoft Corp. said it plans to release the next version of its Windows operating system as expected in 2006, but it will not include much-touted new technology for organizing and storing data.
Tom Button, corporate vice president for Windows product management, said the company hopes to release the new Windows version, code-named Longhorn, in the second half of 2006, about five years after the current version of Windows was released.
With Longhorn, Button said Microsoft does plan to improve the way people find things like e-mails, photos and documents.
But the company will not be ready to include an even more advanced system for sorting, storing and finding data. Instead, it will begin testing that system about the same time it releases Longhorn and make it available sometime down the road.
The ability to find and organize data on a personal computer is becoming increasingly important as people are able to amass more digital information. Right now, finding pictures, e-mails and a Microsoft Word document, all related to the same topic _ say, a vacation in Hawaii _ is time-consuming and cumbersome. These new technologies aim to make it quicker and easier.
Michael Cherry, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, said the company probably had little choice but to reduce the capabilities of Longhorn if it wanted the system to be delivered on time. But he expects Microsoft to be able to offer the more advanced capabilities relatively quickly, perhaps as early as 2007.
Microsoft would not give a time frame.
Rob Enderle, principal analyst with the Enderle Group, said not including the much-touted storage capabilities in Longhorn "isn't a good surprise." But he believes it will be much more critical for Microsoft to be able to include them in the next version of Windows Server software, due out in 2007. That's because servers tend to hold much more data, making advanced searching and sorting capabilities more necessary.
Longhorn also will include new technology for enabling better visual presentation, such as three-dimensional rendering. And it will include ways to communicate more easily with other systems, such as Web-based applications or mobile devices.
But Button said users will not have to upgrade to Longhorn to use those capabilities, since applications that use them also will be able to run on Windows XP.
Cherry said the company probably decided to make the new technology compatible with the previous version of Windows so it could entice developers to make new applications and still find a wide enough audience.
The analyst said the move could make it less likely that some people will buy the new version of Windows, although he suspects that Microsoft will add other features to Longhorn that make it more compelling.
Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Advanced storage technology dropped from release
By Allison Linn
The Associated Press
Updated: 4:41 p.m. ET Aug. 27, 2004
SEATTLE - Microsoft Corp. said it plans to release the next version of its Windows operating system as expected in 2006, but it will not include much-touted new technology for organizing and storing data.
Tom Button, corporate vice president for Windows product management, said the company hopes to release the new Windows version, code-named Longhorn, in the second half of 2006, about five years after the current version of Windows was released.
With Longhorn, Button said Microsoft does plan to improve the way people find things like e-mails, photos and documents.
But the company will not be ready to include an even more advanced system for sorting, storing and finding data. Instead, it will begin testing that system about the same time it releases Longhorn and make it available sometime down the road.
The ability to find and organize data on a personal computer is becoming increasingly important as people are able to amass more digital information. Right now, finding pictures, e-mails and a Microsoft Word document, all related to the same topic _ say, a vacation in Hawaii _ is time-consuming and cumbersome. These new technologies aim to make it quicker and easier.
Michael Cherry, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, said the company probably had little choice but to reduce the capabilities of Longhorn if it wanted the system to be delivered on time. But he expects Microsoft to be able to offer the more advanced capabilities relatively quickly, perhaps as early as 2007.
Microsoft would not give a time frame.
Rob Enderle, principal analyst with the Enderle Group, said not including the much-touted storage capabilities in Longhorn "isn't a good surprise." But he believes it will be much more critical for Microsoft to be able to include them in the next version of Windows Server software, due out in 2007. That's because servers tend to hold much more data, making advanced searching and sorting capabilities more necessary.
Longhorn also will include new technology for enabling better visual presentation, such as three-dimensional rendering. And it will include ways to communicate more easily with other systems, such as Web-based applications or mobile devices.
But Button said users will not have to upgrade to Longhorn to use those capabilities, since applications that use them also will be able to run on Windows XP.
Cherry said the company probably decided to make the new technology compatible with the previous version of Windows so it could entice developers to make new applications and still find a wide enough audience.
The analyst said the move could make it less likely that some people will buy the new version of Windows, although he suspects that Microsoft will add other features to Longhorn that make it more compelling.
Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mobomojo on 2004-08-28 at 15:23:36
Hoo boy, like we needed more Windows. Then again, its been a few years, and money is always nice.
But to reduced certain aspects of the OS just to release it on time? What, with the bugs and holes in the code, open to malicious attacks, etc that we've been hearing about too. Starting to sound like gaming corporations :T
But to reduced certain aspects of the OS just to release it on time? What, with the bugs and holes in the code, open to malicious attacks, etc that we've been hearing about too. Starting to sound like gaming corporations :T
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-08-28 at 15:35:16
Seems like the new OS to be released in 2006 won't be a big thing.
I for one say it won't be worth buying
I for one say it won't be worth buying
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cripple on 2004-08-28 at 15:41:34
If its more secure than the previous installments of windows then people will buy it but if its not then microsoft just wasted 5 years on a os
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-08-28 at 15:47:33
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Longhorn also will include new technology for enabling better visual presentation, such as three-dimensional rendering. And it will include ways to communicate more easily with other systems, such as Web-based applications or mobile devices.
Better Visual Presentation - Not all that important, people are already used to waht they got
Better Communication with outher systems - Lots of people are getting DSL or Cable, making for faster communication and more data transfer, this sounds a heack of a lot like a USB cable connected to mobile devices.
I think Microsoft is just trying to pull a fast and easy buck before they release the real thing in 2007
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-08-28 at 15:56:23
Heh, I don't care about it, when I get my new comp, I'm gunna take off XP and put on 98SE!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-08-28 at 16:10:59
is it just me..or has anyone noticed that as windows releases more OS, the newest one just gets worse and worse.... 
95 pretty stable, I rarley had crashes
98 (SE) the best one made by windows I've ever seen. Crashed only 3 times in my life that i've used it, which is about...4-5 years.
2000 Not bad, but not as good as 98
ME do I really need to say anything about this???
XP it crashed when i didn't do anything. how crappy can it get?
i'm not an OS expert and there are way more OS made by windows but those are the main ones I can get out of my head right now.
95 pretty stable, I rarley had crashes
98 (SE) the best one made by windows I've ever seen. Crashed only 3 times in my life that i've used it, which is about...4-5 years.
2000 Not bad, but not as good as 98
ME do I really need to say anything about this???
XP it crashed when i didn't do anything. how crappy can it get?
i'm not an OS expert and there are way more OS made by windows but those are the main ones I can get out of my head right now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-08-28 at 17:06:29
QUOTE(CheeZe(U) @ Aug 28 2004, 03:10 PM)
is it just me..or has anyone noticed that as windows releases more OS, the newest one just gets worse and worse....
95 pretty stable, I rarley had crashes
98 (SE) the best one made by windows I've ever seen. Crashed only 3 times in my life that i've used it, which is about...4-5 years.
2000 Not bad, but not as good as 98
ME do I really need to say anything about this???
XP it crashed when i didn't do anything. how crappy can it get?
i'm not an OS expert and there are way more OS made by windows but those are the main ones I can get out of my head right now.
95 pretty stable, I rarley had crashes
98 (SE) the best one made by windows I've ever seen. Crashed only 3 times in my life that i've used it, which is about...4-5 years.
2000 Not bad, but not as good as 98
ME do I really need to say anything about this???
XP it crashed when i didn't do anything. how crappy can it get?
i'm not an OS expert and there are way more OS made by windows but those are the main ones I can get out of my head right now.
Yup, I bet this one you wont even be able to use XD
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-08-28 at 17:47:54
O goody another version of windows [/sarcasm]
I wonder whats going to be so good about this one. I mean the only thing I see XP accoplished was that a lot of older programs couldnt be loaded on it.
I wonder whats going to be so good about this one. I mean the only thing I see XP accoplished was that a lot of older programs couldnt be loaded on it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-08-28 at 17:49:17
Heh.... reminds me of that hidden feature. There's a registry key somewhere you can enable to crash on demand with a Blue Screen of Death by using a certain keystroke. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-08-28 at 18:11:13
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Aug 28 2004, 04:49 PM)
Heh.... reminds me of that hidden feature. There's a registry key somewhere you can enable to crash on demand with a Blue Screen of Death by using a certain keystroke.
Awesome!
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O goody another version of windows [/sarcasm]
I wonder whats going to be so good about this one. I mean the only thing I see XP accoplished was that a lot of older programs couldnt be loaded on it.
I wonder whats going to be so good about this one. I mean the only thing I see XP accoplished was that a lot of older programs couldnt be loaded on it.
Yeah, like Radix, Descent, and Tyrian.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by greenreaper on 2004-08-28 at 18:35:40
The newer versions of Windows OS's (Xp, 2000) are probably slower BECAUSE they need to use more memory to run more features...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-08-28 at 19:04:04
QUOTE(greenreaper @ Aug 28 2004, 05:35 PM)
The newer versions of Windows OS's (Xp, 2000) are probably slower BECAUSE they need to use more memory to run more features...
and thats why they are bad. you people need to accept the fact that XP sucks. it uses too much memory for not enough functions. and if you think XP "looks" cooler, then just use a theme on one thats more stable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-08-28 at 19:25:00
Or you could just keep win 98 and just download Ashton (for free) it has all the options Xp does and more much more actually. The only reason I have Xp now is because it came pre installed.
Btw Beer Keg, you were not legally supposed to copy that, just look at the bottom...
Btw Beer Keg, you were not legally supposed to copy that, just look at the bottom...
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-08-28 at 19:28:18
Damn I didn't notice that.
This is redistrubuting is it?
Should I just put a link for it?
This is redistrubuting is it?
Should I just put a link for it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-08-28 at 19:35:04
Yes just put a link to it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-08-29 at 00:11:27
QUOTE(CheeZe(U) @ Aug 28 2004, 06:04 PM)
QUOTE(greenreaper @ Aug 28 2004, 05:35 PM)
The newer versions of Windows OS's (Xp, 2000) are probably slower BECAUSE they need to use more memory to run more features...
and thats why they are bad. you people need to accept the fact that XP sucks. it uses too much memory for not enough functions. and if you think XP "looks" cooler, then just use a theme on one thats more stable.
I think that XP uses like 32+ MB of memory, while 98 uses 8. Awesome, eh?
EDIT: Looking around, I saw that something said tha Microsoft says to run XP, you should have 128 MB of memory to run it. I think we know the answer to why XP sucks
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Or you could just keep win 98 and just download Ashton (for free) it has all the options Xp does and more much more actually. The only reason I have Xp now is because it came pre installed.
Link please?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-08-29 at 01:56:47
Sorry about that typo there I meant 'Aston' not Ashton. http://www.astonshell.com/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2004-08-29 at 03:50:15
Uh oh...
Beer's gonna get sued by Windows!
Meh, I don't care about computers much anymore. My parents never bought good ones and they seem to suck even more after we get it. I don't got that kind of money to buy a good computer either.
By the time that this new Windows comes out I'll either be dead, or not caring.
Beer's gonna get sued by Windows!
Meh, I don't care about computers much anymore. My parents never bought good ones and they seem to suck even more after we get it. I don't got that kind of money to buy a good computer either.
By the time that this new Windows comes out I'll either be dead, or not caring.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-08-29 at 15:21:54
I just downloaded that Aston deal, and I must say I like it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carnorus on 2004-08-29 at 15:43:05
Why we like the following OSes
Macs: Video Editing
Linux: OS that has a future
Windows: Solitaire.... <-- Speaks for itself
Macs: Video Editing
Linux: OS that has a future
Windows: Solitaire.... <-- Speaks for itself
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-08-29 at 17:09:11
QUOTE(Carnorus @ Aug 29 2004, 02:43 PM)
Why we like the following OSes
Macs: Video Editing
Linux: OS that has a future
Windows: Solitaire.... <-- Speaks for itself
Macs: Video Editing
Linux: OS that has a future
Windows: Solitaire.... <-- Speaks for itself
Lol, I don't know about Macs (Never used one
) but the other two are so true XDTHE LEGEND OF SOLTARE!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-08-29 at 17:19:50
Aston is so sexy XD
EDIT: are there better pointers? the pointers they have are good but there are too few.
EDIT AGAIN: OR how about a registration code! anyone?
EDIT: are there better pointers? the pointers they have are good but there are too few.
EDIT AGAIN: OR how about a registration code! anyone?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2004-08-29 at 18:01:20
No wonder why i couldt load decent onto my computer...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-08-29 at 19:23:01
Damn I can't find the link... 