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Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2004-09-07 at 20:09:48
i say no because time technically divides infinately so you would have to get the precise infinite coordinate in time to go back and also if you dont theres 2 of you. an anomaly





note: if this was done before just tell me ill close it myself...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimate l)ragon on 2004-09-07 at 20:11:58
yeah well if u hgo back there will be 2 of u and when u go back to ur time there might be another 2 of u tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by phatdiddy on 2004-09-07 at 20:15:41
It would create too many anomalies. Personally I say no, but I also highly disbelieve in time in the first place.

It was invented by humans for a human purpose, recording the order of events. I don't feel change requires time, so basically time can only be seen on a clock, which is also another human invention.

It's based upon the movements of the sun and earth, that's it. How cna it exist universally if it's based upon only 2 objects in the universe?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2004-09-07 at 20:25:15
Hey theres a blinking light on my screen! That's so cool. What is it?

jp jp

well im not sure if it is but if it is that would be uber-cool, id travel to the time when cavemen desicovered fire, just to see them and wat they do. i wanna see the first person to touch fire and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh, then id travel to the time before i was born and smack my dad and yell "IM UR SON FROM THE FUTURE" then id run around til they throw me out
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-09-07 at 20:41:00
Albert Einstein proved that if you moved at the speed of light time stops for you.

Logically if you go faster you go backwards. Logically you could go back in time.

Going forward, I don't think so because it never happened, therefore you cannot go to.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by @:@ on 2004-09-07 at 20:42:32
QUOTE(phatdiddy @ Sep 7 2004, 07:15 PM)
It would create too many anomalies. Personally I say no, but I also highly disbelieve in time in the first place.

It was invented by humans for a human purpose, recording the order of events. I don't feel change requires time, so basically time can only be seen on a clock, which is also another human invention.

It's based upon the movements of the sun and earth, that's it. How cna it exist universally if it's based upon only 2 objects in the universe?
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I couldn't of said it better, good job phatdiddy, you hit this one right on its nose.

You can do simple time travel. For example. Its 8:00 (Michigan) here and 5:00 in Oregon, if I would magically appear there.. it could be considered time travel in a way. tongue.gif

Also people that are in sky skrapers are farther from the earth so technically it takes them longer to go in a circle, so technically they are in time travel. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2004-09-07 at 20:49:50
my [flawed, most likely] opinion on time travel

Its impossible, the mere act of creating a time machine would screw with all dimensions in my opinion. I think that the past, present, and future, are all different dimensions, so changing the present also changes the past, and since there is no constant there will be no direct place to go...

does that make sense? confused.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by phatdiddy on 2004-09-07 at 20:56:22
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG[eM] @ Sep 7 2004, 07:41 PM)
Albert Einstein proved that if you moved at the speed of light time stops for you.

Logically if you go faster you go backwards. Logically you could go back in time.

Going forward, I don't think so because it never happened, therefore you cannot go to.
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Proving something with equations is different than an actual experiment. How would going really fast make things around you stop, then everything would stop, if time is relevant for everyone and everything than it wouldn't be moving since light is already traveling at the speed of light so time would of stopped because of that.

Unless someone can explain to me how time can stop for one person I'm gonna continue with my opinion: time does not exist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2004-09-07 at 21:03:32
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG[eM)
,Sep 7 2004, 07:41 PM]Albert Einstein proved that if you moved at the speed of light time stops for you.

Logically if you go faster you go backwards. Logically you could go back in time.

Going forward, I don't think so because it never happened, therefore you cannot go to.
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einstein didnt prove this it is a theory. theories have yet to be proved.

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dammit i forgot i wasnt gonna post only make new topics because i was at 606 mine i wanted to get 666 tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KckKryptonite on 2004-09-07 at 21:22:03
Maybe. After all, nothing is impossible.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by phatdiddy on 2004-09-07 at 21:25:25
QUOTE(KckKryptonite @ Sep 7 2004, 08:22 PM)
Maybe. After all, nothing is impossible.
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What are you saying we don't exist or something, cause if you are that's kinda irrelevant.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KckKryptonite on 2004-09-07 at 21:34:48
I'm saying I think time travel is possible. Understand now? How did I imply we don't exist?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-09-07 at 21:39:38
Im-po-ssi-ble...Why? Because Time can't be count... There nothing to count the time... We have build Our own Time calculation system.... But time is the only thing we will never control! By the way, there is no present, When i tell you "we are in present" We are already in future...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by phatdiddy on 2004-09-07 at 21:42:27
QUOTE(KckKryptonite @ Sep 7 2004, 08:34 PM)
I'm saying I think time travel is possible. Understand now? How did I imply we don't exist?
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woah sry I read your post really bad, I thought you said:

Maybe. After all, nothing is possible.

not:

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Maybe. After all, nothing is impossible.


sry bout that, hopefully now u see where I was coming from, but disregard my last post then.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lo[S]eR on 2004-09-07 at 22:36:53
None of this makes sense. Im lost..

My opinion on this is that its not possible cuz.. uh.. You just cant do it.. er..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2004-09-07 at 23:38:01
"Maybe. After all, nothing is impossible."
Agreed. And according to my belief, not only is everything not impossible, everything will also happen, paradoxical as that is.

Well, I guessif you could move in four dimensions, you could move in a direction that would effectively be negative distance and speed, and that would create a slow distortion of time atleast, right?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by The Black Hydralisk on 2004-09-08 at 00:49:01
no einstien already prooved time travel impossible but hyper speed is a prooved fact the einstien prooved to be a fact the only way to go that fast though is through a molecular enhancment based on the mathematic equation fd²=lt
in other words the same type of chemicals speed the drug uses however kids who havent gone through puberty yet would have an opposite effect and would become mentaly disabled it would take a mixture of "speed" and the ingredinte that is now extinct hydroged dinophlate if that chemical was still in existance we would have already come up with this molecular enhancment so time travel isnt possible but time "stopping" is
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (-_-)HaSuTeMpLaR<-- on 2004-09-08 at 01:12:57
nah time travel is the same as.. come to the end of the universal
but u cant because its infinity
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-09-08 at 17:14:49
E=mc[sup]2[/sup]

Doesnt that state that if you approach the speed of light, you gain mass, thus causing more energy to be spent? In turn makes you run out of energy?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by phatdiddy on 2004-09-08 at 18:58:52
QUOTE(EzDay2 @ Sep 7 2004, 10:38 PM)
"Maybe. After all, nothing is impossible."
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Can't you just right everything is possible, double negatives really annoy me. biggrin.gif

Time can't slow down if you reach the speed of light, assuming time is universally the same for everyone and everything, than time would already be slow since things are going the speed of light (light).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by bengals2k4 on 2004-09-08 at 19:20:22
I can't believe there's even a discussion, i agree with phatdiddy on this one time can't be controlled and there's no way you can go back in time, it's just physically IMPOSSIBLE.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2004-09-08 at 23:07:37
QUOTE(bengals2k4 @ Sep 8 2004, 06:20 PM)
I can't believe there's even a discussion, i agree with phatdiddy on this one time can't be controlled and there's no way you can go back in time, it's just physically IMPOSSIBLE.
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Oh really?

TIME TRAVEL: Leaving Tokyo and flying to North America will have the astonishing effect that you arrive before you left.

There you go. Time Travel.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by darthchung02 on 2004-09-08 at 23:40:27
I say yes. I remember watching this thing on TV Long time ago. It said that if we can achieve traveling at the speed of light, then we can time travel. So for example. I want to travel two years into the future. So go from Point a to Point b in 2 light years...and when you come back...youre back at earth 2 years ahead...i dont know if that confuses you but yea.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-09-09 at 12:24:21
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Doesnt that state that if you approach the speed of light, you gain mass, thus causing more energy to be spent? In turn makes you run out of energy?


Yes this is true, its also why you could never reach or go past the speed of light. Because the instant you reach light speed your mass would be Infinite. Going by E=mc2 though, if you could harness that infinite mass you could infinite energy.

But we can travel in time using the time dialation effect, you know the faster you reach light speed the slower time is for you. A 40 year trip for you would be 60,000 years for the rest of the universe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by bengals2k4 on 2004-09-09 at 21:09:14
Time is not really a continuous thing and you can't experience things that are already happened or things that didn't even happen yet (way into the future..) What done is done and you can't really go back on it... That is one of the things that make life so great, challenging and fun.
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