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Report, edit, etc...Posted by idoL on 2004-10-06 at 04:52:44
It's like the defilier casting a dark swarm for a fun, except you make it a comsat station casting scan, same effect, now make the comsat station always follow somthing and you got a nifty vision gun. wink.gif

Whatcha think?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by High on 2004-10-06 at 05:03:29
Does it work?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2004-10-06 at 09:45:12
How exactly did you get it to constantly scan?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2004-10-06 at 09:53:09
It's a nice idea except for the fact that Comsat Station's ability has infinite range. Why not just leave it somewhere out of the way rather than making it follow a unit?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by idoL on 2004-10-06 at 13:59:13
QUOTE(Nozomu @ Oct 6 2004, 08:53 AM)
It's a nice idea except for the fact that Comsat Station's ability has infinite range.  Why not just leave it somewhere out of the way rather than making it follow a unit?
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Cause then it wouldn't really be a gun, you know what I mean? If it's following a unit it's like his gun.

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QUOTE(Coko @ Oct 6 2004, 08:45 AM)
How exactly did you get it to constantly scan?
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Goto your comsat station, press "scan". wink.gif

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Does it work?


Does the darkstorm trick work?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-10-06 at 15:07:57
You can't create Comsat Scans. Nor can a Comsat Scan be "brought" to a location.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2004-10-06 at 16:50:05
Mini Moose answered my issue, i thought you'd make it constantly scan alone the line, instead of Tux's Scouts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by idoL on 2004-10-06 at 19:23:34
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Oct 6 2004, 02:07 PM)
You can't create Comsat Scans. Nor can a Comsat Scan be "brought" to a location.
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Well if the darkstorm and corsiar's web can be modified to be guns then why not comsat scans? You're moving a location to it, so it's plausable and would work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-10-06 at 20:18:25
Will you just try the triggers instead to prove me wrong instead of simply insisting that I'm wrong? I have tried the triggers. Well, not move location. Command works fine for Comsat Scans, but not Bring... I have seen casting Comsat used as a special activation in Chu's old map Outpost Wars (DLDB).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TwiStEd vIsioN on 2004-10-06 at 22:14:44
I don't really get the point in it, how would you make it stop "Shooting" if its a gun?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2004-10-07 at 06:48:33
I don't think there is an AI script for casting scan, plus i think AI scripts only work for computer players.

About identifying the scan....
QUOTE(Teh Moosey)
Command works fine for Comsat Scans, but not Bring...

I suppose scans are like map revealers, they cannot be identified by locations - they just exist there. Like map revealers u cant remove them at a location - the only way is to use 'Remove Unit' which will remove ALL map revealers (because that is not location based)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-10-07 at 15:28:09
He means you make it scan by yourslef, not the AI.

Then, when the trigger notices you command a comsat sweep, it will activate the trigger to do damage. Right? Sounds cool except it will have long range (lol) and will move along the grid thing.

ADDITION: He means you make it scan by yourslef, not the AI.

Then, when the trigger notices you command a comsat sweep, it will activate the trigger to do damage. Right? Sounds cool except it will have long range (lol) and will move along the grid thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2004-10-09 at 00:13:50
Well, as for not having an AI script for scanning(Although this would mean you could only fire extremely slowly) you could have a cloaked unit attack a cloaked Computer unit so the computer scans it, and have the comp share vision with you.

Hmm... limited-range scanner sweep activated by Dark Swarm...
never thought of that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Paella on 2004-10-09 at 07:25:43
This is a much better idea than the defiler or corsair firing systems because the unit created is owned by the player, this way there is not messing up who owns it. just center location, remove, use effect. this could be well utilized with a small map in which you must target enemies and kill them. I like the idea idoL, but maybe you have to make an example map so that other people can understand it and see its uses too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2004-10-10 at 08:33:43
QUOTE(TwiStEd vIsioN @ Oct 7 2004, 03:14 AM)
I don't really get the point in it, how would you make it stop "Shooting" if its a gun?
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To stop it shooting you create another Counter within its movement triggers, which you can set up, maybe having it different depending on the "GUN" choosen, and therefore add another trigger which will make the gun stop if the counter reaches a certain limit. A simple way, would be to have it set to a high limit and have it subtract, therefore saving triggers because when it hit zero the same trigger would be used, while you'd just set it to a higher amount for longer ranged guns.

Simple, easy, effective.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by idoL on 2004-10-21 at 09:11:58
Well, someone make the map or i'll get my lazy ass up and do it, lol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-10-21 at 14:48:01
Wasn't this a joke? So when you mean always following you mean the actual add on moves right, ha ha your a funny fellow.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-10-21 at 21:26:27
GUYS OMG SHUT THE HELL UP IDIOTS! Moose is right YOU CANNOT center a location on a scan! Why don't you listen to people who censored.gif ing know what they are talking about.

YOU CAN'T CENTER LOCATIONS ON SCANS!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by idoL on 2004-10-21 at 22:09:23
Again, if you can center a location on a Darkstorm or CorsairWeb.. WHY NOT A SCAN?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-10-21 at 22:14:14
Idol, make a goddamn test map already. Instead of posting about it for 10 minutes, take 10 seconds and you will discover. . .
THE TRIGGERS WILL NOT WORK

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