Report, edit, etc...Posted by €Hawk€ on 2004-10-07 at 22:44:27
I think the best president was FDR because he led the US through WW2. The worst president was Nixon because he didn't know how to be president.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2004-10-07 at 23:36:01
Could you please give the full names? I dont know the initials, although I know who that was from Pearl Harbor 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-10-08 at 00:54:47
FDR = Franklin Delinor Rosevelt (I don't know if that is the correct spelling for his middle name)
Nixon = Richard (
) Nixon
I believe that JFK (John F. Kennedy) was the best president. I believe this because of how he was trying to get rid of the Federal Reserve and that would have made the currency of the United States, OURS instead of the GOVERNMENTS like it is now.
I think that Bill Clinton was another good president. He got our country out of debt quite a ways (until George W. Bush put us right back in there! That is another discussion) and helped out our education and so on and so forth.
I believe the worst president was George H. W. Bush. He is the reason that there is Cocain in the United States as of today. When we invaded Panama, he lied about it on national television. We didn't help them out, we DESTROYED them. And the reason for the Gulf War? The Gulf War was caused by our own President of the United States. Saddam Hussain came to us to help him deal with Quwait (They were stealing his oil by drilling diagnally into Iraw from Quwait) and we said, "Go ahead and invade Quwait. If they are stealing your oil, you have the right to do that." So what did he do? He invaded Quwait, and our chicken of a President, turned against Hussain and helped Quwait out, just so we could get their oil which they stole from Saddam Hussain. Then, Bushes Son, invaded Iraq without proper athourisation from Congress (He lied to them, stating that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It comes to find out, there are none such things in Iraq. I wonder why) just so he could get Saddam Hussain out of power like his father tried before him. Everything that Bush Jr does, is pretty much what his father tried to do.
Anyways, sorry for getting off track like that. I believe that John F. Kennedy, and Bill Clinton are the best presidents, and the Bushes are the worst.
NOTE: I am not trying to make it sound like Saddam Hussain is a good man. This man is in fact an evil which needed to be taken from power. But the way that it happened is ludacris. And, I do want to say that even though I am dissing on the Bushes, the Bush that is president now, has done what he can (to the best of his abilities, which isn't much
) to protect our country from "Terrorists" (I have another discussion, but that is for another topic) If you wanna hear my Conspericy Theorys, make a topic and I will be glad to tell you my Conspericy Theorys
Nixon = Richard (
) NixonI believe that JFK (John F. Kennedy) was the best president. I believe this because of how he was trying to get rid of the Federal Reserve and that would have made the currency of the United States, OURS instead of the GOVERNMENTS like it is now.
I think that Bill Clinton was another good president. He got our country out of debt quite a ways (until George W. Bush put us right back in there! That is another discussion) and helped out our education and so on and so forth.
I believe the worst president was George H. W. Bush. He is the reason that there is Cocain in the United States as of today. When we invaded Panama, he lied about it on national television. We didn't help them out, we DESTROYED them. And the reason for the Gulf War? The Gulf War was caused by our own President of the United States. Saddam Hussain came to us to help him deal with Quwait (They were stealing his oil by drilling diagnally into Iraw from Quwait) and we said, "Go ahead and invade Quwait. If they are stealing your oil, you have the right to do that." So what did he do? He invaded Quwait, and our chicken of a President, turned against Hussain and helped Quwait out, just so we could get their oil which they stole from Saddam Hussain. Then, Bushes Son, invaded Iraq without proper athourisation from Congress (He lied to them, stating that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It comes to find out, there are none such things in Iraq. I wonder why) just so he could get Saddam Hussain out of power like his father tried before him. Everything that Bush Jr does, is pretty much what his father tried to do.
Anyways, sorry for getting off track like that. I believe that John F. Kennedy, and Bill Clinton are the best presidents, and the Bushes are the worst.
NOTE: I am not trying to make it sound like Saddam Hussain is a good man. This man is in fact an evil which needed to be taken from power. But the way that it happened is ludacris. And, I do want to say that even though I am dissing on the Bushes, the Bush that is president now, has done what he can (to the best of his abilities, which isn't much
) to protect our country from "Terrorists" (I have another discussion, but that is for another topic) If you wanna hear my Conspericy Theorys, make a topic and I will be glad to tell you my Conspericy Theorys Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sinister_X on 2004-10-08 at 11:55:33
Bill Clinton
the guy said he was sorry on National Live News for reciving a blow job i mean how bad ass can you get 
the guy said he was sorry on National Live News for reciving a blow job i mean how bad ass can you get Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark Templar on 2004-10-08 at 14:58:46
I think the best president would be Lincoln. He managed to abolish slavery, and embodied the American dream by being a self-made citizen that came from the low class and made it to the top.
Worst is Clinton Or Jackson. I'm not sure if Clinton accomplished too much. Then he had a major scandal in the white house, and wasn't even empeached, now that is not justice.
Then Jackson led Natives Americans for thousands of miles on a slave march called the trail of tears from their native land to a Indian Reserve. He also owned slaves, Bastard. He should not be on the 20$ bill.
I am sick of people that say he "lied". He had bad information from the CIA, and he believed he had good reason to believe he had WMD's. They did find nothing, but the chief weapon inspector said himself that they found evidence that Saddam would have starting producing WMD's once the worthless sanctions had been lifted off of Iraq. And now, Saddam is powerless.
Worst is Clinton Or Jackson. I'm not sure if Clinton accomplished too much. Then he had a major scandal in the white house, and wasn't even empeached, now that is not justice.
Then Jackson led Natives Americans for thousands of miles on a slave march called the trail of tears from their native land to a Indian Reserve. He also owned slaves, Bastard. He should not be on the 20$ bill.
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Then, Bushes Son, invaded Iraq without proper athourisation from Congress (He lied to them, stating that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It comes to find out, there are none such things in Iraq. I wonder why) just so he could get Saddam Hussain out of power like his father tried before him. Everything that Bush Jr does, is pretty much what his father tried to do.
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I am sick of people that say he "lied". He had bad information from the CIA, and he believed he had good reason to believe he had WMD's. They did find nothing, but the chief weapon inspector said himself that they found evidence that Saddam would have starting producing WMD's once the worthless sanctions had been lifted off of Iraq. And now, Saddam is powerless.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RyanEdwardLee on 2004-10-08 at 15:43:11
Someone is gonna yell at me for saying this but here goes
Best is John F. Kennedy,it was like everything was prefect under him, pity he died.
Worse is our current, Geroge W. Bush.
Our Econmony is in the tank, we went to war for dubious reasons, and our civil rights are disappering faster than a magic trick.
Best is John F. Kennedy,it was like everything was prefect under him, pity he died.
Worse is our current, Geroge W. Bush.
Our Econmony is in the tank, we went to war for dubious reasons, and our civil rights are disappering faster than a magic trick.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-10-08 at 21:03:53
Gerald Ford rocks because he wasn't elected.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by €Hawk€ on 2004-10-08 at 21:08:08
QUOTE(RyanEdwardLee @ Oct 8 2004, 12:43 PM)
Someone is gonna yell at me for saying this but here goes
Best is John F. Kennedy,it was like everything was prefect under him, pity he died.
Worse is our current, Geroge W. Bush.
Our Econmony is in the tank, we went to war for dubious reasons, and our civil rights are disappering faster than a magic trick.
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Best is John F. Kennedy,it was like everything was prefect under him, pity he died.
Worse is our current, Geroge W. Bush.
Our Econmony is in the tank, we went to war for dubious reasons, and our civil rights are disappering faster than a magic trick.
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Ya, I heard the US was really sad when he was shot. George Bush is pretty bad, but I still think Nixon is the worst president, because NO one liked him.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-10-08 at 21:09:53
Worst: Bush, he took the military bases out of Puerto Rico making lots of people to lose jobs and the economy went way down.
Best: Franklin D. Roosevelt, he took the Us out of the Deprsion, led USA through most of WW2. Theres a reason why he was elected 4 times.
another good Pres:
James Monroe: He made it so that Europeans won't mess with America(continent). Sry Will.
Lincoln: He did abolish slavery
Kennedy: Everything was good with him
Woodrow Wilson: Created league of nations and led usa WW1
Best: Franklin D. Roosevelt, he took the Us out of the Deprsion, led USA through most of WW2. Theres a reason why he was elected 4 times.
another good Pres:
James Monroe: He made it so that Europeans won't mess with America(continent). Sry Will.
Lincoln: He did abolish slavery
Kennedy: Everything was good with him
Woodrow Wilson: Created league of nations and led usa WW1
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2004-10-08 at 22:21:16
Best president ever was George Washington, since he lead our country to independence.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2004-10-09 at 01:27:53
best: clinton (forget about the sex scandal and research what he did)
worst: everyone in the bush family who tries or have tried to run. especially W. Bush. ugh redneck in office is a bad thing
anyone who takes offence to this then dont read it
worst: everyone in the bush family who tries or have tried to run. especially W. Bush. ugh redneck in office is a bad thing
anyone who takes offence to this then dont read it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-10-09 at 10:47:58
The Best: Roosevelt or Kennedy
the Worst: Bush Jr.
I think these are quite self explanatory. :\
the Worst: Bush Jr.
I think these are quite self explanatory. :\
Report, edit, etc...Posted by @:@ on 2004-10-09 at 15:37:16
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Oct 7 2004, 11:54 PM)
FDR = Franklin Delinor Rosevelt (I don't know if that is the correct spelling for his middle name)
Nixon = Richard ( ) Nixon
I believe that JFK (John F. Kennedy) was the best president. I believe this because of how he was trying to get rid of the Federal Reserve and that would have made the currency of the United States, OURS instead of the GOVERNMENTS like it is now.
I think that Bill Clinton was another good president. He got our country out of debt quite a ways (until George W. Bush put us right back in there! That is another discussion) and helped out our education and so on and so forth.
I believe the worst president was George H. W. Bush. He is the reason that there is Cocain in the United States as of today. When we invaded Panama, he lied about it on national television. We didn't help them out, we DESTROYED them. And the reason for the Gulf War? The Gulf War was caused by our own President of the United States. Saddam Hussain came to us to help him deal with Quwait (They were stealing his oil by drilling diagnally into Iraw from Quwait) and we said, "Go ahead and invade Quwait. If they are stealing your oil, you have the right to do that." So what did he do? He invaded Quwait, and our chicken of a President, turned against Hussain and helped Quwait out, just so we could get their oil which they stole from Saddam Hussain. Then, Bushes Son, invaded Iraq without proper athourisation from Congress (He lied to them, stating that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It comes to find out, there are none such things in Iraq. I wonder why) just so he could get Saddam Hussain out of power like his father tried before him. Everything that Bush Jr does, is pretty much what his father tried to do.
Anyways, sorry for getting off track like that. I believe that John F. Kennedy, and Bill Clinton are the best presidents, and the Bushes are the worst.
NOTE: I am not trying to make it sound like Saddam Hussain is a good man. This man is in fact an evil which needed to be taken from power. But the way that it happened is ludacris. And, I do want to say that even though I am dissing on the Bushes, the Bush that is president now, has done what he can (to the best of his abilities, which isn't much) to protect our country from "Terrorists" (I have another discussion, but that is for another topic) If you wanna hear my Conspericy Theorys, make a topic and I will be glad to tell you my Conspericy Theorys
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Nixon = Richard (
) NixonI believe that JFK (John F. Kennedy) was the best president. I believe this because of how he was trying to get rid of the Federal Reserve and that would have made the currency of the United States, OURS instead of the GOVERNMENTS like it is now.
I think that Bill Clinton was another good president. He got our country out of debt quite a ways (until George W. Bush put us right back in there! That is another discussion) and helped out our education and so on and so forth.
I believe the worst president was George H. W. Bush. He is the reason that there is Cocain in the United States as of today. When we invaded Panama, he lied about it on national television. We didn't help them out, we DESTROYED them. And the reason for the Gulf War? The Gulf War was caused by our own President of the United States. Saddam Hussain came to us to help him deal with Quwait (They were stealing his oil by drilling diagnally into Iraw from Quwait) and we said, "Go ahead and invade Quwait. If they are stealing your oil, you have the right to do that." So what did he do? He invaded Quwait, and our chicken of a President, turned against Hussain and helped Quwait out, just so we could get their oil which they stole from Saddam Hussain. Then, Bushes Son, invaded Iraq without proper athourisation from Congress (He lied to them, stating that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It comes to find out, there are none such things in Iraq. I wonder why) just so he could get Saddam Hussain out of power like his father tried before him. Everything that Bush Jr does, is pretty much what his father tried to do.
Anyways, sorry for getting off track like that. I believe that John F. Kennedy, and Bill Clinton are the best presidents, and the Bushes are the worst.
NOTE: I am not trying to make it sound like Saddam Hussain is a good man. This man is in fact an evil which needed to be taken from power. But the way that it happened is ludacris. And, I do want to say that even though I am dissing on the Bushes, the Bush that is president now, has done what he can (to the best of his abilities, which isn't much
) to protect our country from "Terrorists" (I have another discussion, but that is for another topic) If you wanna hear my Conspericy Theorys, make a topic and I will be glad to tell you my Conspericy Theorys [right][snapback]83651[/snapback][/right]
I would never take to something to heart by someone on the internet that spells words this poorly.
About your entire post is one big fallacy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-10-10 at 16:26:54
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I would never take to something to heart by someone on the internet that spells words this poorly.
About your entire post is one big fallacy.
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Hey man. You have no right to attack me for how I spell (and I see maybe 1-5 spelling mistakes. That is poor?). And you don't need to take this to heart, it is an OPINION. People in this world are entitled to their OPINION without being attacked belligerently from people such as yourself. So please, until you can learn that people have oppinions, do not try to attack them worthlessly like you have attacked me.
Good day.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-10-10 at 16:45:26
I don't know a lot about most of the presidents, but I do know that Lincoln sucked. He hated blacks as much as everyone else, he wanted to get them out of the country after he got slavery abolished. Then when slavery was abolished, he was shot and his plan to give them better lives failed. The south didn't have slavery, but it had the exact same thing without the name. Blacks were still forced into labor for whites because they couldn't do anything else and weren't allowed to leave because of Jim Crow laws (I think that's what they were called).
Also, everyone says Bush sucks, no duh everyone will say that. He's the current president, everyone always hates recent presidents. In the future he may be remembered gloriously for being the president to get Saddam Hussein out of power. Who knows?
Clintom accomplished A LOT! Also, what Clinton did isn't even against the law you stupid er. How can that be justice? All of Europe was like "Wtf is the problem? He didn't do anything!" because they let people have mistresses and what not. America is a bunch of prudes.
If you are refering to Andrew Jackson, he was awesome. He got rid of the indians, which is what the people of America wanted. He fought the National Bank, which is what the people wanted. That's the president's job, to embody the will of the people.
I don't actually know what Kennedy did. But everybody liked him. I haven't gotten that far in my history class yet.
Wasn't that James Madison? Anyway, whoever it was just said "Europe don't mess with us." They didn't have to listen. He didn't actually do anything. And then they did mess with us! War of 1812? France tricked us into getting into a war with Britain.
If I recall correctly, it was promised that we wouldn't enter into European conflict when this guy entered into his presidency. Within months we were over in Europe. Granted, it was a good thing we did, but he lied.
Also, everyone says Bush sucks, no duh everyone will say that. He's the current president, everyone always hates recent presidents. In the future he may be remembered gloriously for being the president to get Saddam Hussein out of power. Who knows?
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Worst is Clinton Or Jackson. I'm not sure if Clinton accomplished too much. Then he had a major scandal in the white house, and wasn't even empeached, now that is not justice.
Clintom accomplished A LOT! Also, what Clinton did isn't even against the law you stupid
er. How can that be justice? All of Europe was like "Wtf is the problem? He didn't do anything!" because they let people have mistresses and what not. America is a bunch of prudes.If you are refering to Andrew Jackson, he was awesome. He got rid of the indians, which is what the people of America wanted. He fought the National Bank, which is what the people wanted. That's the president's job, to embody the will of the people.
I don't actually know what Kennedy did. But everybody liked him. I haven't gotten that far in my history class yet.
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James Monroe: He made it so that Europeans won't mess with America(continent). Sry Will.
Wasn't that James Madison? Anyway, whoever it was just said "Europe don't mess with us." They didn't have to listen. He didn't actually do anything. And then they did mess with us! War of 1812? France tricked us into getting into a war with Britain.
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Woodrow Wilson: Created league of nations and led usa WW1
If I recall correctly, it was promised that we wouldn't enter into European conflict when this guy entered into his presidency. Within months we were over in Europe. Granted, it was a good thing we did, but he lied.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SpaceBoy2000 on 2004-10-10 at 17:23:16
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG[eM] @ Oct 8 2004, 08:09 PM)
Best: Franklin D. Roosevelt, he took the Us out of the Deprsion, led USA through most of WW2. Theres a reason why he was elected 4 times.
Disagreeing with you on one thing - It was WWII that dragged the world out of depression. Country leaders could really do nothing to actually revert the depression...well, I guess you could say Germany, Italy and Japan did by running out and started the shooting, but most country had programs like giving food to the peopl ein slums and putting people to work building things for the government. For Canada, it was up north in British Columbia where we put them in work camps and basically treat them like slaves. Don't know about the US, though I think they were put to work on highways...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Reever on 2004-10-15 at 00:26:17
Bush was worst Kennedy was best and if Kerry wins he is the worst.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark Templar on 2004-10-15 at 10:02:07
QUOTE(SaLaCiouS(U) @ Oct 10 2004, 02:45 PM)
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Indians? Hmm I don't remember people from India being in America at that time.
People that still call Native Americans "Indians" are just being as dumb as Columbus was when he landed here and thought he was in India. The whole "will of the people" is a load of BS. You don't force natives into reservations, just because thats what people want, he did it because he wanted to.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-10-15 at 10:57:41
You are a dumbass. It's the president's job to obey the will of the people. At the time NO ONE LIKED INDIANS, or if you are being poltically correct "Native Americans". No one would have even thought of being nice to "savages". NO ONE LIKED THEM! You cannot even comprehend how things were I can see.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dark Templar on 2004-10-15 at 15:17:00
Oh no, you called me a dumbass. Ouch.
This contradicts the whole idea of serious discussion by having to call people names.
Anyway, this is a democratic country so it is the will of the people that decide what happens, but I don't think everyone single citizen hated the natives. If they had been protrayed different to the american people, their opinions might have been different.
This contradicts the whole idea of serious discussion by having to call people names.
Anyway, this is a democratic country so it is the will of the people that decide what happens, but I don't think everyone single citizen hated the natives. If they had been protrayed different to the american people, their opinions might have been different.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by @:@ on 2004-10-15 at 15:17:13
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Oct 10 2004, 03:26 PM)
Hey man. You have no right to attack me for how I spell (and I see maybe 1-5 spelling mistakes. That is poor?). And you don't need to take this to heart, it is an OPINION. People in this world are entitled to their OPINION without being attacked belligerently from people such as yourself. So please, until you can learn that people have oppinions, do not try to attack them worthlessly like you have attacked me.
Good day.
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It wasn't as much as fact that you spelled incorrectly, (7 mistakes, not the repeats)its more the fact that you made tons of accusations towards President Bush that are untrue.
I'm sorry, if you threaten to use something to get your way but do not have it, then it is the same as having it. The most recent TIME magazine (very liberal, mind you) had an article on Saddam, he clearly said that his intentions were to scare people that he had WMDs to fufil his own agenda. So, even if USA never finds the WMDs, Saddam still has them because he used 'virtual' ones to threaten people.
This Iraqi war would not of happened if Saddam wouldnt of been so deceitful.
No matter how you look at it, the Iraqi war was inevitable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-10-15 at 16:28:00
You are still a dumbass. Everyone hated the indians because they weren't Christians. They hated how they dressed, they hated how they talked, they hated their religion, they hated their way of life. Those people who didn't hate them because of religion, just wanted their land. Capitalism and Religion were both two things instilled in the American people that inevitably pitted them against the Indians. It isn't the GOVERNMENT'S FAULT! Everyone hated them, the government wasn't going to say anything different because they hated them too. To the Americans at the time, Indians were as bad as Nazis. Even if America were a communist nation as you seem to wish it was, the government STILL wouldn't have portrayed the indians in a good light, NO ONE liked indians.
I would also like to point out that you called ME a name for because I refered to "native americans" as Indians. Honestly, I'm still calling you a dumbass because you are one, whether or not you started it first, but you are still a hypocrite. And, while we're on the subject, calling them Indians ISN'T WRONG! They call THEMSELVES INDIANS! History textbooks refer to them as Indians, and some of them are greatly angered if you call them Native Americans. It's like Blacks, they call themselves blacks, it's ok to call them blacks, because that's WHAT THEY ARE. This political correctness stuff is just a bunch of bull to appease people with ovaries.
PS: It says you are from China. Do you even know what the you are talking about?
I would also like to point out that you called ME a name for because I refered to "native americans" as Indians. Honestly, I'm still calling you a dumbass because you are one, whether or not you started it first, but you are still a hypocrite. And, while we're on the subject, calling them Indians ISN'T WRONG! They call THEMSELVES INDIANS! History textbooks refer to them as Indians, and some of them are greatly angered if you call them Native Americans. It's like Blacks, they call themselves blacks, it's ok to call them blacks, because that's WHAT THEY ARE. This political correctness stuff is just a bunch of bull
to appease people with ovaries.PS: It says you are from China. Do you even know what the
you are talking about?Report, edit, etc...Posted by Battleaxe3 on 2004-10-16 at 14:58:20
Best would have to be Thomas Jefferson because of the Lousiana Purchase and the writing of the Declaration of Independance.
The worst would propably be George Washington, what good did he really do, he was the "first" president so really couldnt have know really what to do.
By the way Sal, thats Japan not china.
The worst would propably be George Washington, what good did he really do, he was the "first" president so really couldnt have know really what to do.
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PS: It says you are from China. Do you even know what the you are talking about?
By the way Sal, thats Japan not china.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-10-17 at 14:59:05
Sorry my mistake. I typed China but I was thinking Japan.
George Washington did a lot of stuff. He set good precedents like two terms. He tried to listen to both sides, and wasn't really affiliated with any political party. TJ was good in his first term, bad in his second. Amazingly that happens to most presidents.
George Washington did a lot of stuff. He set good precedents like two terms. He tried to listen to both sides, and wasn't really affiliated with any political party. TJ was good in his first term, bad in his second. Amazingly that happens to most presidents.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-10-17 at 21:00:30
I havent read past post number 6 or so... but
Bush did not lose jobs... and if he did, it happened because of 9/11. If anything, hes increased jobs by 1% Which is ALOT!
I have no least favorite pres., but if kerry is elected, hell be number one! (on the bad list)
Bush did not lose jobs... and if he did, it happened because of 9/11. If anything, hes increased jobs by 1% Which is ALOT!
I have no least favorite pres., but if kerry is elected, hell be number one! (on the bad list)