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Some moderator please put this in the News Forum and delete this sentence.

I just went through all 11 maps that were waiting aproval in the Melee section. After viewing all of them I would have to say that only about 3-4 maps I aproved. Why would this be?
Because people are sending in Money Maps. I don't think money maps should be admited into the DLDB because there is no point in them. I passed one Money Map that wasn't plain and it actually had some strategic terrain.
I ask the people who submit maps at SEN.

"If you are going to submit a Plain Money Map with very little terrain then don't bother hitting the submit button. Same goes to non-money map."

If you are going to make a Melee style map, please but at least some terrain.

I concur, but I won't post it in the news. Isolated, once you read this, you should add the warning though.

Thats wrong man. You not allowing any plain Money Maps in is exactly the same as not allowing blacks to vote just because they're supposedly inferior.

If some are indeed pointless, thats still no reason to not allow it in. If you got an absolutely pointless custom map, would you still allow it in? Yes. So even if you get a plain melee map, whether it's money or not, it's STILL a map. That's no reason to reject it from the DLDB. The point of us being part of the map team is to review the maps, not accept or reject maps.


At most, you should just give them a bad review or something

BUT if the map IS totally plain (as all they did was place 8 start locations and some resources and pressing save button) then yes i concur. But the reason i posted this is because i assumed those maps you rejected were "Fastest Possible Map Ever" maps, or something really close to that. Fastest possible map DOES have terrain work in it; plain it is but not to the point where it should be rejected. Maps that were made in under 30 seconds should be rejected

What of my map?
[attachmentid=2544]It is a "Fastest Map Ever" but it took me quite some time to make the terrain so that each player had the same amount of space.
Although it is very plain and has nothing too special about it, it is different and I think that the money maps should not be rejected even though they do not require much work.
If the money map were not an original one, would you accept it?

Dude I'm pretty much doing that. but those Fastest maps like the one Legacy posted that are 8 big square chunks of land I will not accept. But I do accept decent money maps with at least something in the terrain. I saw a money map with some sort of labyrinth in the middle and I even liked it and I would like to play it competitively sometime. It's not discrimination against maps, I discriminate if the map was one of those made in 5 minutes.

It specifically said NOT to show any discrimination against maps, even if you dont like it. You're failing your job as a map reviewer.

If you don't make Big squares and make at least one cliff or make it have different areas then yes.

Those favoritisms or prejudice are:
Disliking/liking a person because of any way
Disliking/liking a type of map(IE: Not letting bounds in because you hate bounds)


Yoshi once said that he intends of keeping SEN as best of a quality mapping site as possible and I intend of fulfilling that.

I'm only elimination maps that were made in about 5 minute. Those big squared money maps are an example. I have aproved several money maps that have at least some terrain. I don't care if Bolt or Tux or even anybody made the map I will do approval based on effort.
If you made a map for the heck of it then no. If you really wanted to make a map but you don't have the skills or are a really bad mapper I will accept.

Yoshi said that he preffers to have a bunch of bad maps that were made with effort than a bunch of good ones that were made in 5 minutes.

Why?

Because if people are determined to make maps then SEN prospers because they wold like to learn more. If people keep making 5 minute maps then they aren't determined to learn more about mapping and SEN will collapse.

About the What's expected of this team quote.

Why did you use that? If I was making a job I would always bend the rules for the better and I would change some expectations to better my performance, in this case reviewments and approvals.
Those are just guidelines and not strict rules.

Bolt or Tux wouldn't make a money map that sucked.


To add to that, you don't learn much besides stacking minerals from a money map. Basic money maps with one level terrain and no doodads are not "quality".


Exactly why crappily made money maps shouldn't be here. SEN would collapse. If you want a money map, go on B.net, hit "Join", and select Melee. At least half of the games there should be what you're looking for.


I'll be the judge of that.

Edit: I realized my post defeated itself because BeerKeg was against money maps, and on my side of the arguement.
Edit²: BeerKeg, your name screws up the quote tags. Good job.
Edit3: I'm really editing this a lot!

Meh, I'm taking some sort of oratory class and I thought this topic would be good to use some oratory stuff.
Tip: If you quote and refer to someone which people look up to, you will convince them.


Huh?


Thanks!

Anyways now to the point.
Why do you people keep argueing and going against me because of me not accepting maps that have basicly no skill or effort in the making?

If you people are afraid I won't aprove your map then don't worry. If you made some effort making it then your in. The only that will be affected by how good your map is Rating. Your map will still be downloadable.

If you didn't notice, I was trying to support your arguement.

SEN'd be a shame if anyone ever accepted ANY money map, whichever they are... It's pathetic if you're going to the level of accepting such maps -.-

I planned on doing that SP. But some Money maps that were submitted actually had good terrain. One was better than most normal maps, only problem was that it was a money map.

Hmm... Moose, SP and I seem to be on the same side. Which is good for you users.

It does. It means if someone doesn't like rpgs, that doesn't mean if it's good, they can go ahead and not put it in.

However, Money Maps are a completely different issue. They are a plague to BattleNet and must be stopped through any way. Even though this is a map making community, I'm still sure the majority of people here hate Money Maps and know they are harmful.

Usually 95% of all money maps are the same, 9 squares divided by water. We don't need 100 of the same map.

What can I say. Money maps are crap. Usually, it's like "NR 20" build up a load of stuff, and the game ends 5 minutes later when one team just happens to have made a good choice for what unit to mass. Let's just forget adding money into the DLDB. It's just a bunch of garbage. Please post some maps have some good terrain; better yet there should be a limit on how many money maps can be in the DLDB. Yet there should be no limit on how many non money maps get into the DLDB. And Creator, when it said don't be biased, the fact, plain and simple, is money maps are stupid. It's not prejudice, or anything, just hard fact. And I think comparing that to the fight against racial hatred is a little too much, it's a ing game.

Aight then it's settled then, we won't accept money maps that are more of the same thing. But if you make a money map with terrain then it's acceptable.

Game Over isolated spoke and thats what will go if someone has a very good reason (not stated in this thread) then PM me and I will see waht I can do.


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