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Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2004-11-23 at 15:39:03
I found this out a while ago but never decided to post it. You know the first campaigne for Protoss in Broodwar? THe Escape from Auir? Well I found out a way to have a zergling but it dissapears right away. Notice the cheating tongue.gif

Okay how to get it, not much point but ohh well. WHen you are about the get the zealots (the "rescuable" units) You make the box over them and when they become yours you releas the box selecting the zealots and the ling will be one of the selected but then it just dissapears.

What was the point of putting the zergling there? It is a "rescuable" zergling because it is teal, the colour blizzard uses for rescuable units but what is the point of it? P1 commands 1 ling in location give zealots owned by p6 at location to p1?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-11-23 at 17:16:27
I never noticed that. How long do you have it for?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-11-23 at 17:38:09
Nice find, you must've have had the game in the slowest speed in order to see it.

The zergling might just be another way of using soemthing as a switch.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2004-11-23 at 17:43:02
nope it was in fastest speed, I can even unborrow it but then it just disspears after.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dalinte on 2004-11-23 at 20:56:27
ohmy.gif woah... now I'm tempted to play the campaign again to see that lol... I wonder what other hidden things like that there are in the campaigns
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-11-23 at 21:49:50
I bet their might be tons of weird things Blizzard did.

Is anyone going to search for them? I know I won't... but if I find something I'll post it.

lol, Kaboom, you used a cheat code, lol. 'Black Sheep Wall.'
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2004-11-23 at 21:52:59
Yep!
I bet there will be a ling at the other rescue locations I'm going to go check later.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-11-23 at 22:01:13
it's for the rescuable units so it will play the 'ding' sound, by giving the zergling there, you would automatically get that unit with the free sound happy.gif

the cooleset bug is the one in brood war. The one with zerg and you get to create dts.
If you do it quickly enough and kill the overmind without a dt close, then bring a unit in the creation place, it will say, unit unplacible. But since it moves units away I think, it requires pretty good timing happy.gif

I've done it once ;P
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2004-11-23 at 22:06:48
Yeah that's what I said. They could just make the unit recuable or just play a sound...
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What was the point of putting the zergling there? It is a "rescuable" zergling because it is teal, the colour blizzard uses for rescuable units but what is the point of it? P1 commands 1 ling in location give zealots owned by p6 at location to p1?


Edit: Ohh wait that's not what I said. Mines was about triggers not sounds happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-11-24 at 02:41:17
I don't think i ever played the Brood War campains lol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2004-11-24 at 13:17:25
cant you extract the map and see? i doubt they are protected, lol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-11-24 at 14:30:04
lol. I thnik they won't work though because they do weird things like have different command unit pictures for buildings.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2004-11-24 at 14:39:45
Actually, thats a load of rubbish Zerg because you can open any map from any .mpq, .scm, & .scx to some extent, at least with WinMPQ.

To get a basic copy of the game, load WinMPQ and put the BW CD in your CD Drive, search the Loaded document and then within that will be the CW campaigns, i'll give link later for advice.

The sounds are kept separate, and the preserve triggers get removed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2004-11-24 at 15:12:03
QUOTE(Dalinte @ Nov 23 2004, 05:56 PM)
ohmy.gif woah... now I'm tempted to play the campaign again to see that lol... I wonder what other hidden things like that there are in the campaigns
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Well, if you have played the terran 5 campaign on brood war (the one where you loss your base because a LOT of ghosts nuke it), you MIGHT notice that white has a bunch of lings already in your base eek.gif . Of course, these lings never do anything to you because they are set to be netral (and are removed, most of the time, before you get a new reenforcements.)

QUOTE(CheeZe(U) @ Nov 23 2004, 07:01 PM)
it's for the rescuable units so it will play the 'ding' sound, by giving the zergling there, you would automatically get that unit with the free sound happy.gif

the cooleset bug is the one in brood war. The one with zerg and you get to create dts.
If you do it quickly enough and kill the overmind without a dt close, then bring a unit in the creation place, it will say, unit unplacible. But since it moves units away I think, it requires pretty good timing happy.gif

I've done it once ;P
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So have I, and I thought it was a bug all this time smile.gif
QUOTE(Zerg Playing Dead @ Nov 24 2004, 11:30 AM)
lol.  I thnik they won't work though because they do weird things like have different command unit pictures for buildings.
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That is where you are wrong. Although this isn't the only way, you can edit the maps as long as you can convert them from .chk format. You can do this without any problems. Trust me, I know from experiance (although you didn't here that from me shifty.gif )
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2004-11-24 at 17:43:23
Protected maps in .chk format still require some Hex Editing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2004-11-24 at 23:46:08
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Although this isn't the only way, you can edit the maps as long as you can convert them from .chk format. [right][snapback]103020[/snapback][/right]


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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-11-25 at 22:04:40
KA. I didn't know you could open Blizzard campaign maps with no problem.

If you change it though, I assume it will be changed in the Campaigns though, lol.

I guess it'll be easy to find the origins of the Ling then.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2004-11-26 at 00:31:47
QUOTE(Zerg Playing Dead @ Nov 25 2004, 07:04 PM)
KA.  I didn't know you could open Blizzard campaign maps with no problem.

If you change it though, I assume it will be changed in the Campaigns though, lol.

I guess it'll be easy to find the origins of the Ling then.
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You won't change the campaign if you extract the file from your starcraft cd. However, you do have ability to make your own starcraft campaign by doing this smile.gif cool1.gif uberwoot.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-11-26 at 09:45:21
Hey...I never really thought about that. Think it would work. O_o
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2004-11-26 at 15:43:09
Most of the "Good" Campaigns are created this way, with the files stored in a seperate .exe which is used instead of Starcraft, you can't change the BroodWar CD files, but you can create your own version of Starcraft.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2004-11-26 at 16:13:40
QUOTE(Coko @ Nov 26 2004, 12:43 PM)
Most of the "Good" Campaigns are created this way, with the files stored in a seperate .exe which is used instead of Starcraft, you can't change the BroodWar CD files, but you can create your own version of Starcraft.
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well, actually it IS possible to change the files on a person's starcraft cd - it's just it is very hard to do and there is a VERY low chance of being succsessful
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WellMad on 2004-11-28 at 19:03:59
One more bug i found which is werid, is on the mission in SCBW:toss, when you have to kill alduirs(bad spelling) three times two both hols of him. if you Convert them useing DA, you cannot Complete the mission, untill you kill them using your own units, I think maybe they set triggers in that mission wrong, maybe set as when any player loses 1 hero(aldurs) then message.

When any player loses two hero****, message, when any player loses 3 message victory.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-11-29 at 15:45:16
I don't get it.... I just ran up the middle, mind controlled the one in the middle, and he was given back, Kerri killed him, and then it was done.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2004-11-29 at 16:02:25
maybe its used as a link to the resqueable units? u walk near the ling and far away zlots are urs tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2004-11-30 at 22:51:01
Did some more testing. They only need the Zergling when you rescue zealots only. If there is a combo of units (Zealots+goons example) no ling appears. But, if there are only zealots the zergling is there. Why?
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