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Report, edit, etc...Posted by White-Fire on 2004-12-06 at 23:07:29
some herb doctors say that cocain is a drug that can cure people..? they use it on people when they sick.. ill ... need a operation.. ect. is this right or wrong.. do you think that doctors should use cocain for the people that they tend to help or should they use other drugs to dose people up for a operation that has a great deal of pain.. to someone of us cocain is.. Well BAD.. if doctors started to use cocain it might begin to grown in a lit of peoples yards. they probaly wont use it for health.. they probaly will start smoking it a lot more.. there for people will be in a lot more car crashes and put other people in danger. Me.. i do not want to be driving with a bunch of high people not know what they are doing.. and have very bad reactions..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by getaids on 2004-12-06 at 23:29:58
What is your source for this? I smell bull censored.gif .
Report, edit, etc...Posted by White-Fire on 2004-12-06 at 23:36:34
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What is your source for this? I smell bull censored.gif .
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my source of this is the news.. internet.. And not to sound like a idiot but.. my teacher talks about this stuff..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bacde on 2004-12-07 at 00:16:30
QUOTE(White-Fire @ Dec 6 2004, 10:36 PM)
my source of this is the news.. internet.. And not to sound like a idiot but.. my teacher talks about this stuff..
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You are positive that your teacher wasn't talking about marijuana? I have heard many a case about the controversial issues of merijuana, but nothing at all about cocaine. I think cocaine is illegal under any circumstances.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by getaids on 2004-12-07 at 01:06:30
Haven't you ever seen that image...

Timmy smoked pot, and got a little hungry.

Timmy smoked crack, and almost had a heart attack.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T.s.u.k.a.s.a on 2004-12-07 at 16:33:33
I doubt cocain is helpful for anything other than getting high and preventing pain. It kills the pain by killing your brain. All strong painkilling drugs (the ones used for surgery, preventing pain from lost limbs, to make you fall asleep, etc.) damage the brain and kill brain cells. Even though doctors say that some drug based medications don't cause memory loss or brain damage, they do. My grandpa (age 75) had to get 12 surgeries in 6 years. Before the surgeries, he had great memory. After the surgeries, he can't remember the way home or my name. I try not to use painkillers at all.

I am against using drugs, even for medical purposes. Since drugs kill the brain, people who have had many surgeries become brain-dead. Being brain-dead as a result of drugs is about just as bad as being dead. Once drugs start appearing in hospitals, they will start appearing in people's yards. High people running around all over the place isn't a good thing. Much more people will die and become injured. Our country is becoming a bunch of drug addicts. People will do anything for pleasure because it helps them get away from the fact that the world and life SUCK. If we fix society, we fix many other problems like drugs, teen pregnancy, tobacco and alcohol abuse, etc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by White-Fire on 2004-12-07 at 21:01:40
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You are positive that your teacher wasn't talking about marijuana?  I have heard many a case about the controversial issues of merijuana, but nothing at all about cocaine.  I think cocaine is illegal under any circumstances.
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ops is it called marijuana heh sry happy.gif i got mixed up there cocain is different? i thaught that marijuana was cocain .. lol my mastake sry everyone sad.gif

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QUOTE(T.s.u.k.a.s.a @ Dec 7 2004, 04:33 PM)
I doubt cocain is helpful for anything other than getting high and preventing pain. It kills the pain by killing your brain. All strong painkilling drugs (the ones used for surgery, preventing pain from lost limbs, to make you fall asleep, etc.) damage the brain and kill brain cells. Even though doctors say that some drug based medications don't cause memory loss or brain damage, they do. My grandpa (age 75) had to get 12 surgeries in 6 years. Before the surgeries, he had great memory. After the surgeries, he can't remember the way home or my name. I try not to use painkillers at all.

I am against using drugs, even for medical purposes. Since drugs kill the brain, people who have had many surgeries become brain-dead. Being brain-dead as a result of drugs is about just as bad as being dead. Once drugs start appearing in hospitals, they will start appearing in people's yards. High people running around all over the place isn't a good thing. Much more people will die and become injured. Our country is becoming a bunch of drug addicts. People will do anything for pleasure because it helps them get away from the fact that the world and life SUCK. If we fix society, we fix many other problems like drugs, teen pregnancy, tobacco and alcohol abuse, etc.
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heh, this is very well said tongue.gif i should of had you write mine lol.. oh and for the cocain i thaught it was the same as marijuana.. but this is what my teacher said... and i saw it on the news.. happy.gif


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QUOTE(White-Fire @ Dec 6 2004, 11:07 PM)
some herb doctors say that cocain is a drug that can cure people..? they use it on people when they sick.. ill ... need a operation.. ect. is this right or wrong.. do you think that doctors should use cocain for the people that they tend to help or should they use other drugs to dose people up for a operation that has a great deal of pain.. to someone of us cocain is.. Well BAD.. if doctors started to use cocain it might begin to grown in a lit of peoples yards. they probaly wont use it for health.. they probaly will start smoking it a lot more.. there for people will be in a lot more car crashes and put other people in danger. Me.. i do not want to be driving with a bunch of high people not know what they are doing.. and have very bad reactions..
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im sry everyone i thaught that cocain was marijuana...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by getaids on 2004-12-07 at 23:43:51
Dude... no way. How can you not know the difference between coke and pot? That's like not being able to tell the difference between pepsi and water.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fortune on 2004-12-10 at 09:44:29
IT'S COCAINE YOU censored.gif HEAD
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-12-13 at 06:05:43
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IT'S COCAINE YOU  censored.gif HEAD
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It helps with pain, for people who have serious pain (EG, glacoma,sp?, some types of cancer)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2004-12-14 at 21:54:59
It also helps with your vomit reflexes. Sometimes people get really sick and they can't eat or else they will vomit so they say that marijauna will help suppress the reflex.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gavias on 2004-12-14 at 22:14:07
I believe that they should at least try to use other drugs for pre-operation procedures (I'm not sure what the f*%k I just said tho). But, if they find that cocane is a more useful than other drugs, then they should research the best way to use it. For medical uses only tho wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-12-14 at 22:30:18
I think marijuana should be legal but cigarettes illegal. Marijuana has purpose and will only effect YOUR life, where as second hand smoke is deadly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HeRtZ on 2004-12-14 at 23:10:59
cocain.... all the other drugs heal me
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-12-15 at 14:49:50
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It also helps with your vomit reflexes. Sometimes people get really sick and they can't eat or else they will vomit so they say that marijauna will help suppress the reflex.

But if people haev too much, any toxins in their stomach that casued the sickness may sit there and cause the person to become more sick. It might be better to pump fluids and nutrients into their blood, unless the problem was not directly stomach related.

Marijuana supposedly helps cure people and fix eye damage and stuff, but since it kills your brain, as T.s.u.k.a.s.a asid, it's not worth it unless it would save the persons life, even then, it would have to be in small quantities and the dangerous crap mostly extracted and stuff.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bacde on 2004-12-15 at 18:39:14
Marijuana doesn't kill your brain, it "seperates" your brain cells so it is harder for them to communicate with each other temporarily. Cocaine on the other hand, pretty much destroys your brain and your body.

The main reason Marijuana should be used in operations is that it is one of the best pain-releiving drugs, and as LegacyWeapon stated can be used to help a sick patient's vomit reflexes, as well as regain sick people's appetites after a long surgery (or anything else). Marijuana also isn't physically addictive. It CAN become psycologically addictive, but that isn't much of an argument because anything can become psycologically addictive.

Marijuana can cause eye damage if it increases the blood flow to your eyes too much. It also destroys your lungs if you smoke it. If it is to be used in hospitals, I propose that it be either ingested or at least to be taken via vaporizor.

I am for legalizing marijuana to the general public, and taxing it as tobacco and alchohol are taxed. It would probably increase America's economy by a landslide, with all of the money they would be pulling from the taxes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .matrix//Merovingian on 2004-12-16 at 01:54:31
Speaking of cocaine, it was actually used as an anesthetic by some surgeons and dentists during the late 1800s and ealry 1900s; they discontinued its use when they found out about its addictive properties. Cocaine was also the active incredient in original Coca-Cola (hence the name); it was replaced with some other ingredient (I'm not sure what it was, however; caffeine, probably?) when its makers found out that cocaine was addictive.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by High on 2004-12-16 at 23:07:02
All drugs have side effects, cocain worked as a pain killer and anesthetic, but it had side effects (obvisously)

Coca-Cola was acually a cough serium, they found people became addictited to it, they made it into a commerical drink and then decided that they might get sued beacause of its addictivness
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fortune on 2004-12-18 at 13:06:19
_This topic is about cocaine is it not? Stay on topic.

_I have family who have been cocaine addicts. I know how it is living in a house with coke in it, so no I don't think it helps at all.

_It's only real affects are bankruptcy and depression.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-12-18 at 13:50:33
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I think marijuana should be legal but cigarettes illegal. Marijuana has purpose and will only effect YOUR life, where as second hand smoke is deadly.


You honestly think Marijuana doesnt have second hand smoke as well ? Every time you take a drag on weed then exhale its just like a cigarette.

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Speaking of cocaine, it was actually used as an anesthetic by some surgeons and dentists during the late 1800s and ealry 1900s; they discontinued its use when they found out about its addictive properties. Cocaine was also the active incredient in original Coca-Cola (hence the name); it was replaced with some other ingredient (I'm not sure what it was, however; caffeine, probably?) when its makers found out that cocaine was addictive.


Nobody ever stopped putting Cocaine in their products because they were addictive. They stopped using them because laws were passed banning them. You think coca-cola cared that it was "addictive" ? You bet they cared, if you were addicted to coca-cola gues what, that ment more money you would be giving them. Cocaine would still probaly be in coke today if it were legal. Yes caffiene was the replacement for cocaine, partly because it was addictive as well (to a certain extent).

And it wasnt just used by dentist and doctors, you could buy it from the store like you would Tylenol.

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some herb doctors say that cocain is a drug that can cure people..? they use it on people when they sick.. ill ... need a operation.. ect. is this right or wrong.. do you think that doctors should use cocain for the people that they tend to help or should they use other drugs to dose people up for a operation that has a great deal of pain..


Thats what morphene is for. These so called 'herb doctors' sound like they've been taken from the 19th century.
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