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Who do you guys think should have israel and why?

I think the Palestinians because the Israelis just kicked them out after buying all their land. They used they're religion as an excuse to steal a country from people. Originally, Israel wasn't populated by only the Jews, there were other cultures too. You can't pretend only the Jews lived there and for fairness they get it back. It's like having the Native Americans telling everyone in the US to leave for Mexico because it was their land first.

That's my point of view, you can support it or disembowl it.

Zerg Playing Dead... you never been in Israel... you don't know the contry's history, and you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

it just came to my mind, an example, to make you understand better what you're saying - giving Israel to the Palestinians is exactly the same as giving the US to the indians, or giving russia to the tcetcnias (did I spelled it right?).


wrongo, Israelis won Israel in a war, it also was a 1/5 war, 6,000,000 Israelies VS 5 different arab contries, with the palastines in them.
and Israelies won.

also, palastines want a country, but all the arab countries throw them away because they don't wana them to live in their counties.
so palastines come to Israel.
some live in Israel, and that's fine, some want the contry to be called "palstinia" and not "Israel", and they want the goverment to be palastinian, so they wear 'explosive belt' (I don't know how it's really called but it's like many homemade explosives on a belt) and then they go to the street and blow up, and kill more 80-240 innocent people with them.
do you really want to give terrorists a country?

maybe the problem is just that you don't care, since you don't live here.

You're right, I don't know a lot, it's just I don't think a lot of them would be terrorists if they had a country. Some Israelis may resort to terrorism if they were kicked out.


I had visited it, but I was a baby then, so it doesn't really count.


But when the Israelis got it, it was also that sort of thing, so it's a win lose situation. One will lose, the other will win, I am guessing the Israelis will win as they kind of already have.


That was a great quote , I don't have anything else to say right now.

so what, will that be a reason to give them back what they were kicked away from?

if palastines want so much what they lost, they can start a war and try to win it.
instead, they don't attack soldiers, they attack innocent citizens.

but those that really gor the blame, are the Jihad, Hizzbala, and other terror groups, that convince Palastines that they should becomes terrorists.

also, did you ever had a terror attack in your country?
how many terror attacks your country stops every week?
how many terror attacks do you have every week?
will you give the terrorists your country?

I'm just saying either way there will be a group of people who will be really POed.

Since it is now mainly Israelis in Israel and they are more powerful and more friendly with other nations, I guess it would be easier and more beneficial to keep it Israel. The Palestinians will have to find somewhere though before they start getting really aggressive. Dunno where though. Maybe part of Iraq or someplace that is restarting its governement and stuff.

If i know my historical facts accurately...

If you look WAY back into history, God gave Abraham a test. He told him to bring his son, Isaac, to a place to sacrifice him. Abraham really hesitated but since it was the lord that spoke to him, he reluctantly obeyed him. As he was lifting his knife up to kill his son, the lord stopped and said that he passed the test of faith.

As a reward for this, God said that All of Abraham's sons and generations of descendents will be given this land (aka Israel). So Abraham's son had lots of ionic bonding with his wife and spawned 12 sons. One of those tribes' descendants were jews and another tribe were the arabs. Those two tribes hated each other really badly. I dont remember exactly the names of them.

My point is that it's really no one's fault; they're both descendants of Abraham and they act hostile towards each other. Yes, the Israelis seem to be the one that get's blamed but their arguments for their actions are reasonable as well.

your bible memory is rusty...
first of all, abraham's son - Izhak - was Yaakov's father.
Yaakov was who had 12 sons (and 1 dougther).
Yaakov also got a middle name from god - Israel.
all 12 sons had chiledren and those become a nation, Israel, but one year it was such a bad summer that they had to go to Egupt to live.
they helped the king (parro) and in reward he let them live there till they can go back.
when the parro (am I spelling it right?) died, the new one saw that the Jews (the Israely Nation) living in Egupt started getting all the good jobs and being important, and he afraid that Egupt will become a Jew nation.
so he made them all slaves and told soldiers to kill all new born males.
after some years (I'll skip the heroic story) god 'attacked' Egupt for not letting the Jews going away and than Moses led them in the Desert back to Israel.
there, they fought the arabs who come to live there and claimed the land back.

many years later, somehow, Jews scattered around the world.
than in Germany, history makes a comeback and hitler don't want the Jews - that started getting all the good jobs in germany and being important - to be in germany.
so he started killing them and WW2 started.

when the war ended, most Jews decided to come back to Israel, but when they came there 90% of who lived there were arabs (palastine) and not Jews.
Palastines didn't wanted them there so instead of living together they started a war.
they made a mistake by doing that - since they lost the war.
later on they tried making the Jews run away from Israel with Terror attacks and failed.

today, organizations such as the hizballa tell the palastines they can take israel back if they blow up at the streets and kill jews, so they do it.
both sides become foes again and everybody hate everybody.

how sad.

Cant we just kill everyone and be done with it..

Halo(MC), seriusly, this was a very dumb thing to say.

Just think of it, you have many holes in your idea:
let's say you gonna do that, how?
start a war? it'll start a WW3 and it'll be a nuclear war, it'll just cause many innocent people to die.
nuke Israel? than you'll kill way more than your target, and than what's left of the arabs will start a war and again you get into a WW3 and it's a nuclear war where pressing a button = 10,000,000 deads.
can you show me any better scenario than a WW3 when in the end 98% of the world will become a full of holes, dead and ash?

'Kill everyone' additue worked only in 90% of the cases, learn history, and latly it never worked well.
why do you think it'll be better this time?

do you really want to kill millions of innocent people that you don't even know, becaues of... well you have no good reason to do so right?

im sure we should have it

I think israelis should have israel because there are allys and palestinians aren't and israel has the best air force in the world and why should palestine have it they hate the U.S. and would proply declare war on us after they got israel and that would suck we got a nuff war already.

It's not that simple, hell. Sure, the Palestinians should be allowed to live on the land, but not until they curb their terrorist attacks. But I think Sharon is just causing more trouble by building new settlements. What we need is a change in Israeli governmental policy and a change in Palestinian culture. But neither will happen, so both groups have to settle for what they have, which is violence and mayhem, with losers on both sides.

You can't really say whose land Israel is. And uh... i think the USA has the best military in the world, also meaning we have the best airforce in the world. We could crush israel easily but we're like their only ally. It's because of our support that israel has good military and why people seem to hate the americans.


Yea, The middle easterns have a sense of union. If you look at every middle eastern country except for Israel, everyone's muslim. Everyone speaks almost the same language. They're like brothers and share same ideals and beliefs. Now that the jews are thrown back into the land, it created some unsteadiness among the arabics since they're different.

Heh, apparently they're not all that close. Not one arab country stepped forward to take in the massive pile Palestinian refugees from the war with Israel way back in the forties or fifties, I forget exactly when. If they had let them in they wouldn't be in Israel to spread hatred for it among today's Palestinian youth.

Well, but the Other arab countrys are fighting with the palestinians. They want their Brother country to get back what they think is their righteous land