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often when discussing f the universe a question comes to mind "where did all this stuff come from?". what bothers me with this question is it implies that "nothingness" is somehow a more ideal state than say "everythingness" or the mix of stuff we think to be our current state of the universe. so what's so great about nothingness?.. what characteristics does it posses that would make the universe tend towards that state?

heres what i got so far


* No spatial definition
* time does not exist


I find the last one to be particularly interesting, if time does not exist, think that could be a very good way of understanding it. if there is no time, the universe would have just always been there in its "nothingness" state. its hard to imagine, something just always being there and not having a beginning, but perhaps its true. also, by einsteins theory of realitivity, the faster something moves the slower the time moves, but its all relative and if there was nothing at all, perhaps there would also be no time.

[center]Perhaps they're trying to say that there was no MATTER/MASS in the univers before the big bang? If there were an absence of time, how could the big bang occur? Wow, mind-boggling. Kinda of like thinking of the color clear. I like discussions like this. Make people seem smarter than they actually are.[/center]

Everything is something. I just don't think there is nothingness. The empty space is just that, empty space. Not nothing. It just might be a glitch in the system. I better ring up God that there might be a bug in his game of Earth. Everything might get wiped clean and we'll have to start over! All the lawsuits...

Actually, there are places where nothingness exists in the Universe. They're called singularities and they're found in black holes.

Black holes were when God divided by zero.

Nothing is the absence of anything

Just like dark is the absence of light, emptyness is the absence of fullness.

The negative form of a pair of opposite words is the absence of the positive.

Well not so much like that, but here is another example:

War is an action, it's something.
Peace is not really an action, it's the absence of war.

Same answaer as me high

cHaOz^, and your sig is way to Big Dude, Remove it befor a mod does.

Ya i dont believe in nothingness eather but if it was true how would you turn nothing into something if theres 100% nothing there???

Nothing is the absence, the absence that, because it is the purpouse of nothing, creates, everything, in other words, nothing is the creation of something.

You see my logic?

where do u think there would be "nothing" ?????? before sun been created ?? or just now, at 100000000 miles from the earth ?? if it is the first question, i realy dont know what it was before the sun appeared, maybe only a point of spirit hyper concetred that exploded, but what was next to it ??? uh.... maybe some death, point of spirit that died and we can't see anything anymore, but .... for the second question , i don't really think universe is limited at 1000000000 miles but i would think at about 99^99^99^99^99^99 miles and after that ???? lol maybe the same answer as the first question ??

the word "nothing" was created by weak humans who fear what they do not know.







Nothing is the absence of anything.
Anything is synomonous of something.
Something is an unspecified object.
Therefore, if nothing is the absence of something, than there are no unspecified objects. However, you cannot specify what nothing is, making it something. so Something is nothing, and nothing is anything.
A paradox 0.0

Nothing is a concept inconceivable to the human brain.

Nothingness could exist. If you have an area trillions of light year away, it could be devoid of matter and energy and light, it is just highly unlikely. if you could visit it, you would generate heat and leave some scattered matter and particles and stuff, so nothingness can't be seen or found. Only the ag=bsense of something being detected could be n0othingness, but you still have ags and particles and stuff.

The biggest flaw with the big bang theory is it says the matter came from nothing. With the time thing mentioned earlier in the thread, if there was absolutely nothing, then there is no time (time is a measurement of things happening). If there is nothing and no time to comapre things toe ach toerh, then there is no way something could have trigegred the big bang. There would have to have been something there already. perhaps the big bang was compressed matter and energy that eventually exploded under its heat and energy, perhaps their wasn't a big bang, perhaps the big bang is a contraction and expansion cycle. Having the Big Bang come from nothing is impossible.

Therefore, since we are here, and I can post this, then there could never have been total nothingness everywhere, but perhaps pockets of nothingness in certain aeras. This gets really confusing on the quantum elvel. What do you consider the space between a proton and a neutron, or a nucleus and an elctron, is there something smaller there, like enrgy or strings, or is that the eral nothing, where there are 9999^9999^9999^9999^9999^9999^9999^9999^9999^9999 etc pockets of nothingness. You can also then theoretically have the nothingness connected like a giant web intertwined with mass and energy. This can be broken down more and mreo in the quanteum levels, but that's cheating.

The big bang theory did not state the universe blew apart from nothing. It came from highly concentrated matter. It was like spontaneous combustion and I believe we will not continue to expand forever, but will shrink back into this concentrated ball and be expelled again! But that is a bit off-topic...

But where did it first start? Its probably something we can never comprehend.

One of the best things i've heard all week. Nicely put!

When I am thinking about the concept of "nothingness" I try to think of where in all aspects of life, ideas, and religion of where they say nothingness existed. With the Big Bang theory some highly dense matter exploded creating planets and other things. That is to say, this matter always existed in this realm of "nothingness", or was the universe already in existence giving the claim that "nothingness" never existed in the first place?
With religion such as Christianity, Islam, or any other religion out there, usually some "deity", "god", "God"(Christians), or Allah, in the beginning there was "nothingness" as in there was no matter. But the "gods" did exist and since I doubt the possibility of spontaneous generation (life from non-life) they were "something". Then, they created matter and took away some or all "nothingness" that existed. It is very confusing indeed.

Usually when we speak of "nothingness", it is an abstract concept like a point, line, or plane. We can give examples of them, but you cannot show examples because points, lines, and planes have no depth. And well nothingness is the absence of something so you can't "see" it. For example, I have nothing in my bowl right next to my keyboard. It used to have grapes in it, but Fate gave them to my stomach. I "know" there is "nothing" (abstract) in my bowl, even though there really isn't nothing (concrete) because there are molecules of oxygen, hydrogen, carbon, and water molecules in there. We REALLY take our concepts too much for granted.

If you REALLY want something that will churn your mind, what about MY stomach??? I'm a Kirby; I am an 8-inch pink ball of fluff. I am mostly hollow because the majority of my body is well... a mouth/vaccuum. It takes up so much space there is no room for a stomach, nor a brain. (Some hypothesize that I have something called a "ganglion" for a brain.) I swallow thousands of enemies when I'm on one of my "crusades" to defeat the evil clothed blue penguin. Where does it all go? Did nature or god divide by zero when they created me? My thoughts are that I send guys to an alternate dimension that makes up my stomach, like a "quantum leap" or a "wormhole". Or, I could have an extremely fast metabolism, but I wouldn't have enough room inside myself to store all that is needed. Just a thought. <(^.^)>

@Captain_will Here's a nice quote to make you smile. I found it in someone's subquote thing (like the Kirbys below this text)
It's fun to philosophize things.

Edit: the quote is from Kenoli's subquote

Warning Do not read between the lines!

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That means Nothing is nothing, proving you wrong, But since nothing IS nothing that mean's its Something, But since Something cant be changed to Nothing it is automatically Nothing. So it would be Nothing But it would be Something Because Nothing is something but nothing is also Nothing, That would mean that if it was Something, to describe Nothing, It would still be something, but it is Nothing, So Nothing Would be Something to describe Nothing which doesn't exist, so its Something to describe Something that is Nothing. If there was nothing Then Nothing would be the Something that is there, So It Would be something but nothing, So Nothing is something when you say there is nothing but you mean there is nothing and nothing describes that there is nothing there, But it IS something so it wouldnt be nothing and it would be something but you said it was nothing so it would be something describing nothing which describes something that you think is nothing, So Nothing would be something but since nothing isnt something it would be nothing that describes nothing, but if it was nothing that described nothing it would be something that describes nothing so it would be something but it wouldn't be soemthing because it is nothing! So it is nothing but for saying nothing it is really something because nothing is something that describes nothing. So if nothing is something that describes nothing, Nothing is something that is nothng that is something. That of course means it's something because its there but its nothing because its not there but its written to describe nothing but it really is something. That would mean it was something to describe nothing and nothing is something to describe nothing when you say that it is nothing Nothing is something because you said it and you cant say it if it is Nothing. That means it would be something to be nothing but its really nothing because its supposed to be nothing but its NOT notihing so it would be Something. Something which would be nothing because nothing is something.

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Since I said nothing is something because nothing is something to describe nothing when it IS nothing, I am a hypocrite, But that would mean Everyone is a hypocrite because they said nothing , Nothing is something to describe nothing. So then everyone Wouldn't be a hypocrite, so a hyporcrite is nothing, But since a hypocrite is nothing it is something because you said it, You cant say it if it is nothing and the same goes for Nothing, But IT IS nothing.

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Nothing can be something to describe Nothing. So it is something when it is really nothing

Nothing is probably the void of space. If you take chemistry, you will learn that 99.9% of our bodies... anything is actually space. In atoms, there are electrons, protons, etc., but around those atoms is mostly space.

NOTHING IS NOTHING!!! EVERYTHING IS SOMTHING!!! NOTHING IS JUST NOTHING THATS THE WAY IT IS!!! and its most likly used by the term nothing as to that theirs nothing of that item or thing,
EXAMPLE:
You place a item on a table next minute later theirs "NOTHING" their, but the table and w/e alse is their but that item!

THEIR CAN NEVER BE NOTHING, NOTHING IS SOMTHING THEN NOTHING!!!

a void of space?, its a void of space! not just nothing! because theirs always somthing their to fill the area! If their is a place where theirs ABSOLUTLY NOTHING! then matter and EVERYTHING WILL BE PULLED IN TO FILL IT! Once filled the force would just stop, because that area is filled with somthing then nothing!

Don't copy ma posts

ok if nothing is nothing and everthing is something then how come nothing isn't something ? that is the question

SomeOne plz reply to this becouse i want to know if im right or not nothing must obveusly be something but nothing is nothing and everthing is something so what is nothing i thougt i had it but i lost it so Tell me...

nothing, in literal terms, is the absense of all matter and anti-matter.

so, i guess a vacuum.