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Hey, so what you think you are? Beginner, Average, Advanced,Über?
And how can you say that?

For me I really don't know, I'll say Iamb Average because I am able to create a map put some basic trigger, play it, I am able to make invisible bunker, hyper trigger(which is very easy). And I'm still learning, I frequently ask question but am I a beginner for this? I'm not able to understand the Thermocount trigger.(well i speak french this is maybe why) But even with the trigger I don't catch it....

Beginner who don't know how to put trigger would see me as an Average player maybe Advanced, but Über probably see me as a Beginner player... This is sssooo hard!!! Should i be none? haha

Seriously what do you think makes difference between Beginner, Average, Advanced,Über? (I know that you can't put Über yourself but anyway)

We should put limits so we would know what to be... even there... if the limit between Beginner and Average players is to know how work sprites... MAybe someone know about sprites but don't about simple trigger... this remains complicated...

So, say me
1 What you think you are
2 Why that
3 Should we make a distinction between levels?

Thx

(I do think this is a serious discussion)
(And sorry for the spell mistakes)
Gh[o]st_

Basicly I know everything can be done in the SC editor and how to do it.
Just ask me a quastion and if I have time I answer it.
BUT - I'm a very lazy person and I make maps only when I either have to or really really really want to, thus why I don't make maps.
So I set my skill to: "none".

What's the point of being a map maker if you don't make maps?

Lol, i'm advanced , i thnik, because when i see other people maps, i just hate them and want to make better maps, i wouldn't have this idea if i was a beginner i think and also becausse i really USUALLY CAN make what i think
nope, the distinction shouldn't exist, it's just for people that help u to know how they could explain to you, if ur a beginer, he would say, click on trigger , new trigger, add ... etc , if ur average, they would tell u with some details , and if ur advanced, he'll explain u only main things, minimal to be understandable..... and uber dont need help ))

Alright,

Explain to me the process of a binary calculator that would enable realtime physics of a bouncing wraith in a 50x50 zone. (without loop)

Sidenote: I've only seen one person do it, and I am 99.9% sure that person is not you but >>> Launcher(U)

I and many others wouldnt even no the math involved in the physics -.-, but im sure if I saw the triggers I would understand what is being done, not that I could make them myself.

Yeah but we often see some people yelling at some newcomer CHANGE YOUR DEGRE YOU ARE A BEGINNER

And i do think that a beginner can do everything that he wants to do, because he usually don't know what Uber for exemple are able to do so what the beginner do is always easy.

No?


Gh[o]st_

ADDITION:
Oh and i don't think "none" is a good option too because like Robi said, this information is to help the helper... And this is a creating map site so if you don't do map you're on the wrong site...

By the way i'm "none" till i ll get a interesting point of vew for beginner, average and Advanced... maybe not advanced...


Gh[o]st_

I really dont care what my mapping skill level is. None, beginner, avg, adv, uber, they're all the same to me. Those dont mean anything really (only to show off).

What you can DO with whatever skill you have is what counts. And that's the thing; most people cant implement their map making skills effectively into making good maps.

It might not always be to show off. Some people use it to determin the kind of help they get. Like it says about changing your skill level. I don't know why some people put their names as advanced when they really arent advanced. It is not like they are getting an award if they have advance in their name.

Anyways I am average because I sometimes don't take the time to think of complex triggers.

I set mine to none so nobody could yell at me to change it and make it lower. I mean who would yell at you to make it higher? But I don't see any reason we have this other than to help people in Map Making Assistance. Where when we see the skill level and are explaining triggers, we know how in-depth we need to explain it to them, or how complicated we should approach their problem.

I think advanced and uber are kinda the same thing. You know like everything there is to know. Maybe uber understands it a bit more and finds new methods of doing things. But I agree with Millennium because you get uber for making great maps and being helpful and all that jazz.

I put mine at average, can't go wrong with that Maybe I'm being modest...

From this point on, my map making skill shall be beginner! I'm getting sick of people telling me to lower my skill level because they don't think I know what I'm talking about, when, in fact, they don't know what they're talking about.

I'm uber skill, but I have it set to "not making maps", because im not. I tried to make it descriptive for everyone. When they see your skill and it says "none", but then they see that you dont make maps either, people can assume you're here to have fun, play some maps in progress, download some maps, and participate in the forums giving feedback to other peoples work. You don't have to know a thing

I am sort of like Ago. If I tried really hard for a long while, I could probably get to be considered Über, but I rarely release or finish a map. I know how to do everything, but I raerly have the inspiration to finish a map.

So, if it is for map making knowledge, it is Advanced, but if it's for the actual skill, hmmm. I can make experimental maps and stuff, but I am not very good at finishing a map, so it would probably be None or beginner.

I see myself as an average map-maker. I have quite a few good map ideas locked up in my head somewhere, I have a good understanding of triggers, and i can even be helpful when it comes to map-making at times, but my terraining skills leave something to be desired and I just can't seem to finish my maps.

Don't listen to my skill... listen to my user title

i don't really care about the map making skills, some people are lieing when they set to advanced, usually bound makers.

I put my map making skill at beginner because I don't really make too many maps, so there's no improvement in my skill. Although I have almost no skill, I am ironically, endlessly fascinated by the map editor.

I've done a little programing (C++/Visual Basic), but the challenge of creating something complex from such little resources interests me. It's (relatively) easy to create a game with a programming language, but it's far more interesting to try doing the same thing in StarEdit. So, I put beginner because I want to learn, and stuff (especially grid systems ) confuses me.

O_o. I sent a PM to BeeR_KeG[eM] about this already. so bleh.

Im average. I know how to make a map, with good terrain, often complex triggers, and unlike most others, have a good storyline, which I find important. What I cant do is the more flashy stuff, weird terrain, nor have the patience to make any map bigger than 192x192.

Mp)3: I haven't been active lately but they didn't want to make you Uber for reasons I think of not really good. They jsut didn't really like gameplay a lot.

I would consider myself Uber but since I haven't released a map in quite some time I haven't proven myself.

Tuxedo's Binary Calculator thing is about to be obsolete once I finish my Digit System which I believe might make equations and maybe even functions and algorithims. Instead of making 1 million triggers to keep adding 1 of value to somethign via trigger and keep it so that the system knows how much value it has.

Instead of 1 million triggers I can make it in 70.

Do you have a test map? That'd be interesting.

I'm like a average close to advance I Think

See, to prove that you are something, you don't need to waste your time making this superlong RPG that has millions of side missions and spells and other special effects. You just need to make one simple map that shows you can make a complex system with triggers and mostly triggers. When I say "complex system," I do not mean burrow detection, item usage, turn-based battle, or grids. I mean something that nobody has dared thought of before. Don't think about the impossible, like "omgomgomg I'm gonna make 0 locations bound". Make something that you think is complex. Once you get that down, you can slowly move up to Über. Perhaps I'm rambling or maybe I'm not. But hey talking about all this just gave me a really cool idea.

[center]I'd call myself an average map maker. But people I know would probably call me advanced, because everytime they ask me a question about SC/SE, I know the answer. Maybe.... half advanced/half average?[/center]

I say that I'm Adv, I know every trigger in the map editors, But, once in awhile. I'll get glitches, but I always seen to fix them for some reasons. Back in 2000-2001 I used to get alot of glitches, But, Nowadays, from 2002-2005, I haven't gotten a glitch that I wasn't able to fix. As the years go by, you'll learn how to do stuff, No one is perfect, Even sometimes I'll put the wrong trigger in by accidents. But, I always fix it after I keep testing the maps. But, Unlike alot of a people, I hardly use the Switchs, I know how to use them, but for some reason, I don't just use them alot, I'll use only a few.