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Report, edit, etc...Posted by .{TM}. on 2005-01-26 at 00:51:40
Honestly, i think we can make anarchy work somehow someday but not now. People are topo crazy now. so im going with a mix of democracy and communism. maybe if we need to ill vouch for monarchy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2005-01-26 at 01:37:30
I'd prefer a socialist dictatorship. At least that way people wouldn't be under the impression that they're "free".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Otaku on 2005-01-26 at 02:19:30
hmm..I'm not really sure...communism might be ok...spread the power around =P

democracy can be corrupted too easily... =\
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-01-26 at 16:51:09
I created my own form of government called Karmunism tongue.gif
Sounds kinda like Communism but not really.
It's like a dictatorship but different.

There are 2 councils. The Council of 300, and the Council of 5.
The Council of 5 are chosen by the "dictator" who is elected by the Council of 300. The Council of 300 are pretty much random citizens that apply for terms. So if you want to be in the Council of 300, you just apply and they randomly pick people. The "dictator" is the first Council of 5 member.

This is a graph sort of how it works happy.gif
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-01-26 at 19:27:29
[center] *nuclearrabbit points to sggy!*
Anarchist government. Wow, that's kind of an oxymoron.
Anyway, Libertarian socialism. (Anarchist)
The government has WAY too much power over our lives. Noone should have any more power over my life than ME! If I want to do something, the government shouldn't be allowed to stop me. When that happens, it leads to complete censorship, and absolutely NO freedom. If you actually wanted to have an Anarchist government, you'd have to FULLY commit to it. That means, you'd have to realise when someone's taking charge, and put a stop to it. The only way for it to work is everyone works to make it.

...If you see somebody taking charge, you�ll be expected to beat them...
Anarchy Camp
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Otaku on 2005-01-26 at 19:39:50
if anarchy started right now, and there was no police or anything, well...

hope you didnt just buy something big! tongue.gif

gonna get stolen from you...anarchy wouldnt work lol, too many screwed up people...why work when you can kill and steal...=\
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2005-01-26 at 19:41:54
Legacy, for some strange reason that government of yours has lots in common with Canada's...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .{TM}. on 2005-01-26 at 20:21:39
maybe thats why canada is so much better off than the US
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-01-26 at 21:33:53
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maybe thats why canada is so much better off than the US
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No they're not. USA is better than Canada in just about everything except for our leader. He's bringing our country down and making us look bad
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-01-26 at 21:36:52
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Legacy, for some strange reason that government of yours has lots in common with Canada's...
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Weird, I never studied much of Canada's government. I just looked into forms of government (Republic, Democratic, and Communistic etc.).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-01-26 at 22:47:05
EDIT: Oh ya, back on topic xD.
I've thought of this question some, and I still don't have an answer. The problem I see, is that in the best systems, there's room for corruption. I don't know much about government or different forms of it, but here's some problems I see:

Current government: Personally, I don't see much problem with it. Of course, it's nowhere near as good as it could be, but that's, as far as I know, in the case of things that could easily be changed(but wouldn't happen because of the same problem with other governments), or, if that problem with thios and other governements weren't there, then you could say 'screw this' and switch.

Anarchy: Look below

Monarchy: Greedy jackasses that feel that they are somehow superior to the lower-classes

Communism: If I remember what this is correctly, then lazy jack-asses.

All the same problem; human corruption(jackasses).
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The government has WAY too much power over our lives. Noone should have any more power over my life than ME! If I want to do something, the government shouldn't be allowed to stop me. When that happens, it leads to complete censorship, and absolutely NO freedom. If you actually wanted to have an Anarchist government, you'd have to FULLY commit to it. That means, you'd have to realise when someone's taking charge, and put a stop to it. The only way for it to work is everyone works to make it.


One problem I've seen with that so often; by giving power to the people, you give them the power to have power over another's life.
Your actions effect other people. The more freedom you have, the more extreme such a thing is. So, really, you'd be handing your power to choose to anyone who's in some way more powerful then you. And then you just have to hope that those people are not censored.gif s. Which, of course, is unlikely.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-01-26 at 22:53:38
Hey guys. Check out this cool site to run your own government.

Jennifer Government Nation States

It's not really objective other than to have fun.

Anarchy isn't a form of government btw. : /

A smart dictator in a dictatorship would be ideal.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-01-27 at 03:10:32
Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-01-27 at 03:34:15
QUOTE(Otaku @ Jan 26 2005, 05:39 PM)
if anarchy started right now, and there was no police or anything, well...

hope you didnt just buy something big! tongue.gif

gonna get stolen from you...anarchy wouldnt work lol, too many screwed up people...why work when you can kill and steal...=\
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[center]Read the last 3 sentances of my last post.

We should pour some chlorine in the gene pool, and then kick the Anarchist government into position. There's too many censored.gif s out there for any for of government to work effectivly 100%.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by .{TM}. on 2005-01-27 at 22:22:25
true, but if we cant run any government why do we vote?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-01-27 at 22:32:06
I highly doubt anarchy will ever work even though the idea is genius.
Communism is the same, it can never be perfected but people try anyways.

For anarchy, I think someone will eventually come to power, no matter what. People will start to rule others, the rich mostly.

Keep this in mind:
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why work when you can kill and steal...=\
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QUOTE(nuclearrabbit @ Jan 27 2005, 03:34 AM)
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I read the last three sentences of that post he was quoting and didn't see anything that mentioned about that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-01-28 at 03:27:44
I just don't think that the leaders of the world should be all fancy. They should have an adequate salary, not one that allows them to live luxuriously while there are many homeless.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Foamy on 2005-01-29 at 21:43:57
Can we go back to "invidualism" biggrin.gif
All for him self. And sure start groups "clans" and if you don't like it in a clan then go to another or live by youself.
We all have the same oppirtunity [Spellcheck].

You have to fight for your life, or get friends that you can stick togheter with.


but this thing, wouldn't work in todays society, we are WAY to Lazy and useed to all this services etc.

so I say.

Why Bother?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Halo(MC) on 2005-01-30 at 02:48:19
If you had a dictator that actually cared about his people, and wasn't corrupt (Good Luck finding someone like that) I think a Dictatorship would work.
Democracy is easily corrupted, and an anarchist government.. Just wouldn't work, and communism is contradicted by human nature so it eventually fails.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-01-30 at 14:18:44
"Anarchy isn't a form of government btw. : /

A smart dictator in a dictatorship would be ideal."

A: Anarchy isn't a form of government? Nothing is something; it's nothing. It's also absolutely no somethings. Thus, you could say that Anarchy is a form of government in that it's no government. Like... negative government. -1 is something.

Part of thinking of a good government is it needs to be fool-proof and made to be impossible to exploit. Which, of course, is impossible, but the closer you get, the better the average person's life in such would be.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-01-30 at 16:02:23
I don't mind American government, to be honest. The only complaint I have with it is that the maximum ammount of consistency is eight years.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-01-30 at 17:12:41
I actually like Legacy's form of government it sounds pretty cool. but i think there would be problems with it... well i guess less than whats happening w/ bush.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TSoldier_Wol[f] on 2005-02-01 at 21:39:16
I say "Communism" Works for me, Cause. I do what I'm told on what my comrades or folks says. I don't like doing stuff on my own choice, I'm used to being told stuff on what to do. I'm not used to doing stuff at my own free will. Also, communism will make our country stronger too. Even though, USA is a strong country when war comes in. But, if we were communism then we'll get stronger. Plus, I got kicked out of school for supporting Communism.(Hint hint) Not kidding! (hint hint)

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-02-01 at 23:51:23
Every type of goverment has its flaws but, i still think democracy is the best out of them all unless a new type of goverment is made that is better.

Communism (is the worst goverment)

If you had to listen to one king that wouldent work because in the US at least people wouldent be willing to change from free to having to do what the King says.

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QUOTE(TSoldier_Wol[f] @ Feb 1 2005, 09:39 PM)
I say "Communism" Works for me, Cause. I do what I'm told on what my comrades or folks says. I don't like doing stuff on my own choice, I'm used to being told stuff on what to do. I'm not used to doing stuff at my own free will. Also, communism will make our country stronger too. Even though, USA is a strong country when war comes in. But, if we were communism then we'll get stronger. Plus, I got kicked out of school for supporting Communism.(Hint hint) Not kidding! (hint hint)

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You forgetting human nature (greed) private ownership makes everything better. Sharing isn't good in a lot of ways. How come public places are trashed like bathrooms? But when you go to a privately owned place they are spotless? Their are more forest fires in public forest then forests than privately owned forests. People litter because its not their problem (unless they get cought) . They wont have to clean it up....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by cfro7211 on 2005-02-02 at 20:26:27
Republic. End of story.
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