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Today during class we were talking about the Reformation is, and the debate steadily changed to one of Compromise.

Is Compromise a good thing, or a bad thing?
I'm not asking if it's neccessary, because obviously there isn't much you can do without it. What I'm asking is if it's good or bad.

I think it's horrible. The only thing compromise does is satiate two venomous snakes until a stronger leader comes to power, and then it's all over. No one wins in a compromise, so it's really hard to assess if you did any good at all.

Depends on how good the compromise is.

Remember that guy who compromised the Senate and the House thing (the North wanted Senate and South wanted house?) That was amazingly good!

If you didn't have compromising the world would be in a state of anarchy.

I don't know if it would be anarchy, perhaps neonazis.

They would still fight amongst themselves. It's human nature.

*Edit* Obviously you like neonazis, because you think compromise is horrible.

*Edit 2* You're right. *Sarcasm* We need to hunt down everyone not of the superior Aryan race and brutally execute them in whatever way possible.

Compromise? I know of two ways it can be used, and only one of them seems to be in any way able to apply to this topic as far as I can tell.
Compromise, to come to an agreement that's somewhere between what the wants of 2 people.

And I doubt this is what's being referred to, because that just wouldn't make sense.

Compromise is the main support that holds society together.

I beg your pardon.

I'm not a neonazi.

You were saying the world would turn to anarchy, but that isn't true. If all compromises went as a win-lose situation, the world would be full of extremists like neonazis.

I never said I was one.
Nor do I support it.
I suggest you take it back.

To me compromise is something that any involved parties have to concede in something for the common better good to be achieved in an appeasing manner. Admitting that you're wrong, when you are is one of'em, by my 'book'.
Balance n' tolerance, as almost always, are the key (for peaceful coexistance). Woa... what a deja vu feeling.

Compromise is essential to all aspects of your life and prevents the world from descending into chaos.

Unfortunately, the nice chaps at the debating society would love to disagree with me. I always abstain from their stupid little votes as the issues that they debate upon clearly have a compromise answer which they seem to ignore.

I suppose that the whole point of a debating society is to not accept compromise though, and instead doggedly try to argue for one side or the other.

Ah but in the grand world of opinions, there is no wrong. Math, there are wrongs. Opinions... no.

You said you think compromise is horrible. That would mean that many people would be oppressed in this world. Either that or we would descend into a rather barbaric society.

You would have us look past its necessity. That's akin to making us look past our humanity (and in that I mean our thoughts). Compromise, true, will not get you everything you want. However, it keeps much blood from being spilled. I do not take back what I said. I believe every word of it as vehemently as you do your's. And, on a last note, the point of a compromise is to give both sides or all sides something, and keep the peace. Compromises are very good and can count as a victory.

Capt.Will, I agree with ya. If tolerance were more used, it sometimes wouldn't turn into a flame bait as sometimes I've seen it happen. That n' some posts to be more clearer in what they really mean.

Woa-Felagund, I somewhat agree but with the opinions bit not to the fullest extent of it. If your opinion is backed up by solid evidences, then it must be accepted by all parties. No matter what they think. And if that doesn't happen, that's when extremism comes in to play.

To me, extremism, is many times associated to an antonym of compromise.
Many times, compromise, is also associated with balance or even tolerance. See the pattern getting drawn here? From this, allow me to get back to my 1st post here (nr.9).

Edit reason: Link coding mess... *Sigh*

This is a friendly debate not something serious. The goal of a debate is not to compromise, but to win. It's totally different.

That's what I hate about them. It's pointless to debate because in the majority of cases there is a strong argument for either side, and a middle ground.

When you have those key elements, you know that a compromise is necessary.

Yeah, but even when some person refuses to grasp/see the evidences amidst your thinkin' that prove you're right, then it will fall under extremism. A mild one it could be, but extremism never the less.
To have the strength to admit that you're wrong when you are, is a thing very hard to accomplish n' that I just happen to respect. I do know so by personal experience.

Are you calling me an extremist? Prove that I am.

There ya go. Flame bait to it's best, if I ever saw one.
Don't put words in my mouth. Peep here (post #52), to see a better point of my view. Tryin' to win a senseless debate (no proofs) isn't my way of getting a better hand than the other side.

Edit reason: Linkage fixin' (direct link to post).

But would t even be possible to go without compromise. think about all the things that you do daily with compromise. like walking the dog for instance is a compromise. you compromise your own free time to let the dog out. but you see that the rewards of owning a dog are greater then that which is given up. Some compromises benefit the owner more then the cost. think about a game of monopoly, everyone agree on a set of rules in which to play by, this compromise means no cheatong, and becuase you all agree it is then possible for you to go on and win. compromise to some extent is not bad at all. think about it this way, how can one man be great agaisnt 50 thousand, where the 50k compromised there free will for the greatness of their family/ nation. the 50k beat the 1 man every time. without compromise nothing great is possible.

you immidiatly jumped the gun when I said Neo Nazis are extremists, and decided I was one just because I brought them up in conversation.
That's extreme.

Now that's putting words in my mouth. It's only fun to flirt around the edges of the actual debate anymore. *Sighs*

Apparently you think I think you're a neo-nazi?

You said you think compromise is horrible. I guess my blatant sarcasm (read my post saying that) was not enough. *Sighs* You proved nothing by presenting false evidence.

*Edit* Perhaps you misunderstood me.

Ok, there is a line that you draw that defines where the compromise becomes more favorable.