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Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-01-27 at 18:50:18
I noticed that when people get warned once, they tend to go bonkers and get mad. There should be something in the part about warnings saying like "if you get warned for something, it isn't the end of the world. Correct your fault. Do NOT throw a tantrum, as you will probabally get more warns with an IP-ban in the forecast."
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-01-27 at 18:56:44
Its usually pretty logical. Whats worse, an IP ban or a warn level counter increase?

As I said in the other topic. You get IP banned, you cant access any tutorials or anything on the site. You cannot access mirrored files.

To feed our egos a bit, you have to admit that SEN holds some of the best mapping resources on the internet. He denies himself of those as well. So in fact, hes throwing away his whole map making thing.

If he wants to be IP banned, it'll be a waste of 700 posts of his life which I can end in 15 seconds.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-01-27 at 18:58:26
I'm not just referring to him. It has happened to at least 10 members, a few I can name below:

Wolfmastekouga
Mr. Man (or whatever it was)
Zombie (didn't get the boot but got pretty warn level raise)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2005-01-27 at 18:58:51
Most people who do that were censored.gif s in the first place.

EDIT:

Mr. Man was a spammer and an idiot.
Zombie was fine, he just had a nasty habbit of pissing people off.
Wolfmastekouga was being a jack ass, but I kinda think someone might have found out his password and posted as him. He's been with the site for a while, I doubt he would go off and flame an admin over somthing so stupid as a warn raise.

In any case, It's just a handfull of people, who cares?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-01-27 at 19:03:28
They should take their warn level like a man (because I haven't seen any women get warn levels on the site yet wink.gif).

If they think spamming, insulting us, or anything of the sort will bring it down, or make things hard for us, they're extremely wrong. Its more time consuming for them to have registered that account then it is for us to delete it and ban.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-01-27 at 19:04:13
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Jan 27 2005, 06:56 PM)
Its usually pretty logical. Whats worse, an IP ban or a warn level counter increase?

As I said in the other topic. You get IP banned, you cant access any tutorials or anything on the site. You cannot access mirrored files.

To feed our egos a bit, you have to admit that SEN holds some of the best mapping resources on the internet. He denies himself of those as well. So in fact, hes throwing away ... (trimmed)
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Can't people change their IP address?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-01-27 at 19:05:10
They shouldn't even be mapping if their intelligence is that limited. Get warned FOUR times, have the rules shoved in their face, and still not get it. They probably don't know what staredit is.

Mr. Man said he came here to play the arcade and get minerals...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-01-27 at 19:05:44
You can use stars like banning the (pointlessly stupid) 67.*.*.*

However that would ban anyone with dynamic IP.

You can zero in more, for example 67.13.98.*

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They shouldn't even be mapping if their intelligence is that limited. Get warned FOUR times, have the rules shoved in their face, and still not get it. They probably don't know what staredit is.

Mr. Man said he came here to play the arcade and get minerals...


IT isn't that they get warned four times, they get warned once, then they throw a fit and do more bad things and insult Yoshi.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-01-27 at 19:10:28
QUOTE(LegacyWeapon @ Jan 27 2005, 07:04 PM)
Can't people change their IP address?
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Dynamic IPs can be wildcarded. If he attempts to access the site though another computer or something to spam or whatever, I have his orginal IP in logs here. All I'd have to do is report him to his ISP, and he loses his internet access.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-01-27 at 19:53:09
I never believed you when you said that... You can't just contat anyone's ISP and start making everyone lose their internet connections, I doupt they have time to lose with these kind of people...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-01-27 at 20:13:33
They have rules in their TOS.

Heres your ISP (or an old one):
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13. By using COGECO's High Speed Internet service, the Customer will also be deemed to have agreed not to use the service in a manner that is contrary to applicable laws or regulations, COGECO's High Speed Internet service agreement and acceptable use policy available on the www.cogeco.com website.  The Customer agrees to pay any additional charge applicable if the Customer exceeds the prescribed usage limits set out from time to time by COGECO in the "bandwidth, data storage and other limitations" section of its acceptable use policy

Page its on

Its against the law to use the internet for harrassment, comprimising system resources, and things such as that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-01-27 at 20:50:33
Wouldn't he just get a warning, first? (from the ISP, I mean). Then they can just stop after the damage was done, and the warning, given.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-01-27 at 20:51:54
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They should take their warn level like a man (because I haven't seen any women get warn levels on the site yet ).


Looks at RexyRex

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Wolfmastekouga
Mr. Man


They both got mad at me and I took action aginst the both of them.

With Wolfmastekouga he opened a topic of his that I closed. It didn't bother me but he was like "OMG, I can re-open my topic, now mods can't do anything cause I'll just re-open it"
Then he sent me a PM flaming me that I was taking over advantage of my power so I warned him again because he is questioning and flaming at a mod's decision.

If anyone wants to question any staff(not the member group) member's decision then just make a thread in the feedback and we will discuss it.

Mr.Man was just asking to it. He insulted yoshi in a very bad manner so I warned him. Then he did the same to me so I Warned him/Suspended him for 7 Days and asked yoshi to permanently ban him which he did.

Basicly you guys were asking to get banned.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-01-27 at 21:25:33
You forgot to mention me in the list of people
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-01-27 at 21:35:16
This thread has really gone far enough. Enough flaming and defending, i was juat suggestion an addition to the rules. Yoshi will add it if he wants to, otherwise this thread has no purpose. (Locked)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-01-27 at 22:14:00
I support constructive arguements with authority. Outright flaming is not okay. That's my opinion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-01-27 at 23:46:37
I'm going to reopen this, just because I want to answer peoples questions and get responses. Its the first time (hopefully the last) I defy the actions of the member who opened it.

QUOTE(Shadow Paladin @ Jan 27 2005, 08:50 PM)
Wouldn't he just get a warning, first? (from the ISP, I mean). Then they can just stop after the damage was done, and the warning, given.
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It has to be spamming I cannot control before such actions are taken. However the ISP would rather not have a customer who pisses off too many sites (because it will give them a bad rep). Typically, everyone stops after they've been IP banned. There were only some cases when I had to mail ISPs.


QUOTE(BeeR_KeG[eM] @ Jan 27 2005, 08:51 PM)
Looks at RexyRex
They both got mad at me and I took action aginst the both of them.

With Wolfmastekouga he opened a topic of his that I closed. It didn't bother me but he was like "OMG, I can re-open my topic, now mods can't do anything cause I'll just re-open it"
Then he sent me a PM flaming me that I was taking over advantage of my power so I warned him again because he is... (trimmed)
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What they don't understand, is that the warn level system was put in place so that they have a fair chance to stay at the site. If too many people get pissed about some little integer counter, then I might "hide" the members from viewing their warn levels, and make it so they don't know they have it. We'll give verbal warnings but not tell if their counter was increased (it would be kept for moderator/admin reference if and when they got to 100%).


QUOTE(devilesk @ Jan 27 2005, 09:25 PM)
You forgot to mention me in the list of people
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You are smarter than the few others, and didn't go on some vegence warn level futile rampage.


QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Jan 27 2005, 10:14 PM)
I support constructive arguements with authority. Outright flaming is not okay. That's my opinion.
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Mine too. Which is why this topic was reopened.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-01-27 at 23:49:24
The only time I was angry when I was punished was when I was on spam-rampage. I got set back 50 posts, then got +25 for complaining. But that doesn't make it right. I learned my lesson there anyway.
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