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Fine then, I put in Ideas.

Sadly there's not enough team projects to make their own forum worthwhile. At least as far as I can tell.

How about this (for starcraft forums only):

• Starcraft-
  • Help & Assistance (centralized and placed at top... should be our highest priority)
  • General Starcraft Production- (migrate Generic Staredit to this parent forum)
    • Concepts & Triggers
    • Terrain & Effects (included effects to accommodate trigger-based effects and scenes)
    • Ideas & Unfinished (could also call this Recycle Bin )
  • Custom Maps- (don't like how UMS sounds for some reason...)
    • Releases
    • Production
  • Melee- (like moose's idea)
    • Maps (Production and Showcase)
    • Strategy & Replays
  • Modding
    • Releases
    • Production
    • R&D
  • Programming-
    • SCMDraft
    • Starforge
    • (other editors here that deserve subforums... hey clans can get them why not programs?)

Absolutely right... Those forums aren't just 3rd party tech support, they are hosted forums upon the request of SI and Hemidal. They have always been treated as hosted forums, and thus will go into a new group like clans have... except it will be programs and the like.


I like your logic (here at least )

Until later... something like...

Website
Starcraft General
UMS
Melee
Mods
Hosted Programs
Other
Hosted Clans

I think we should just simplify more and combine a lot of related sections.

FAQ and Regulations should be summed up as a series of posts within a stickied locked thread in the Feedback section.

UMS map and Melee map showcase can be combined, Melee section is rarely used and when it is you can tell they are melee maps because people usually tack a (#) player number count right next to the name.

Concepts and Ideas should be merged, the topics differ but but the sections are used for the same purposes.

Starcraft Editing Related, Terrain, Team projects, and Project Graveyard are all very inactive sections that can fall under the same category of Starcraft Editing Related. Recommend and Review should be killed, no one cares about it. And this whole section can be moved up with the editor sections as subforums.

The rest of the sections could stand some simplification, Creative, Computers, Gaming, and Lite seem like they could all be combined.

-News
-Contest & Updates
-Feedback, bugs, Discussion

-Map Showcase
-UMS Production
-Melee Discussion
-UMS Assisstance
-Concepts
-Starcraft Editing Related
--ScmDraft2
--Starforge

-Modding Showcase
-Modding Help
-Modding Discussion

-Misc
-Lite
-Serious
-Welcome

EDIT: Also a little side note, we have a News and a Updates and Contests section, yet I'm still seeing posts about contests in the News section. Now I know some of them may be official SEN contests but shouldn't we make the distinction just the same and keep them in the appropriate sections? Examples: 1, 2, 3

FAQs aren't going to have a forum in v5, case closed. Don't bother putting it anywhere. Reccomend and Reviews won't need a forum either, as it's also going to be a section.

Where's the editor forums? At least there should be a Starcraft Programming forum or something in their place.

I'd say put Editing in its parent forum (General Starcraft), remove Team, put Melee replays/strat/discussion in the Melee parent, push UMS showcase to the top of its forum (releases should always be the highlight), put Welcome in the website section (new users can get more attention this way instead of being stuffed in the back), and remove the two staff forum subforums.

Mostly what Tux said...

Delete advertising... updates can be a small blog or some crap on the front page...
I'll look at it more later... gotta go to work.

Did you read mine? I favor simplicity. And I don't know how many different forums you've been to but a lot of SEN's sections that you claim get a lot of traffic are dead compared to other forums. Melee is on a life line right now and you want to expand it?

Well whatever, I just thought I would put in my two cents. I'm in favor of less sections, less clutter. But ask yourself, does a community centered around map making really need 6 forums and 3 sub forums about off-topic discussions (off-topic being anything non-map related)?

What I mean by parent forums is the category forum itself. Can't you use that itself for a forum instead of a separate "Generic Blah Discussion" subforum?

You did say you wanted less subforums after all.


The "tech forums" are a bit confusing, though. I think since you already have general tech stuff covered by the Computers & Technical forum they should probably go back under the Starcraft forums. Programming IS another aspect of starcraft production after all, even if not as directly as mods and maps and such.

Above other. Even though they are hosted, they are more SEN related than other or clans. And it'll give the forums more room to expand in this section. A Datedit forum? Sure, why not.


Realize and analyze what you just said. If they are so crappy, they should just not exist. Advertising goes, that's not debatable (sp?). People advertise enough in their sigs... no need to give them any more space. Advertise in another form = warn/punish/whatever. I'm still on the line about the polling booth.


I'll have to agree. Plus it's nice to take a break from whatever you're here for. After I get done with a section of code, I might visit an other forum to debate some pointless topic or look for a laugh or something. I'm sure mappers/modders do the same.


Making main categories into forums would be gay... I hate looking at sub forums in any forum.

People will still make the other topics; I think it is more sensible to give them somewhere out of the way to do it than to try to go around making sure that it doesn't slip out everywhere. If you drop advertising, then you'll get people's websites in topics in Computers and Technical, and it becomes an argument about whether the topic is just advertising or actually talking about the website layout or coding.

Agree with everything else.

ADDITION:
Barring major objection, I think we should reorganized to this ASAP. Anything that someone wants to be delete will still be there for deletion if agree on.

[Brackets] indicate comments on what old forum goes where. These are not final names for the forums.

-SEN Functions
---Portal News
---Updates & Minor Tournaments
---Website Feedback, Bugs, and Discussion
---Staff
-----Records
-----I. S.
---FAQ [going bye-bye when v5 comes]
-General Starcraft
---Editing (Staredit Related)
---Terrain
---Concepts and Innovation [move and rename Concepts]
---Ideas & Graveyard [merge Ideas and Graveyard, with possible movement of out-of-place topics. Talked to you about this one Moose.]
---Team
-UMS
---Showcase
---Production
---Help
-Melee
---Replays, Strategy, and Match Discussion [Melee General right now]
---Map Showcase & Production
-Modding
---Mods in Production (+Showcase)
---Modding Assistance
[sort topics in Modding General, then delete]
-Tech Forums
---Starforge
---SCMDraft
-Other
---Null
-----Polling Booth
-----File Request
-----Advertising
---Lite Discussion
---Serious Discussion
---Computers & Technical
---Creative [merge the creative forums to one]
---Games
---Welcome
-Clans
---(U) [going bye-bye soon]
---O.o
---Mp)
---[MM]
---Chef
---SEN-MOD

Also, I'd like to look in to hiring Section Managers for each section. This is still in hypothetical stage, but I see them as having their own group on v4 (just bolded moderator color), have modding permissions in all their deparment forums, and be responsible for running their section, maintaining it's activity, doing PR stints, contests, and the like. This would large be a ceremonial promotion with more duties, but not privileges. I'd like to see these people be capable leaders more than the #1 expert in their field, but expertise is obviously required as well.

Who might they be?

UMS: ???? I'm at a bit of a loss here. Red2Blue? Maybe?
Melee: Between Yenku, Valug, MA, and psychotemplar (or w/e is name is now), I'm torn between picking one, none, or a combination lead.
Modding: Voyager. Don't see who else, really.

1. DT, Ideas and Graveyard are *not* to be merged. The foot is down.
At best, we get rid of Ideas, and that's where we encounter "topic displacement".

2. Did you look at the topics in Modding General to see if those can be sorted? A place is needed for Modding Discussion related neither to Assistance nor releases.

If you've got both, why even change the name of Graveyard?

Ding ding ding, you win the prize! That's the whole point of it. Something DOES have to be attached in order for someone else to take the partially finished thing and finish it.